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Originally posted by G-Con We have all understood what you are saying but you are missing the point that we are ALL saying back to you. This is a DJ poll. Therefore, you should vote for who you think is the best DJ. Simple as that. Doesn't matter how good they are at producing. Thats not what this poll is about. Its about how good they are at DJ'ing. Let me give you an analogy to help drill the message home. You are in a restaurant havving a meal. The chef in the kitchen is also waiting tables. He is a brilliant chef, his food is unbelievable, the best you've tasted. But his skills as a waiter are terrible. He is ill mannered, didn't offer you any drinks and ignored you when you asked for sauces. The next day you are asked by a friend who do you think is the best waiter or waitress you have ever come across. Would you name the chef because his food was the best even though he was a crap waiter? Of course you wouldn't. Just like you wouldn't name a shit DJ as being the best DJ there is just beacuse his productions are good....oh wait a minute...you would

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But as RJT said, if straight answers flew right over his head, I expect analogies wont do much good either.

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Originally posted by miketg23 Huge overeaction sunshine! I actually listen to quite a bit more house than trance. I just don't like going to house music parties, where I'm from at least, because of the crowd make up. If you feel the need to spend a quarter of your income or more on portraying an image, well that's good for you. As for calling me a kiddy raver, go right ahead. I know I don't fall into any of the sterotypes you just described, and therefore I don't take any offense.

Good job on missing the point entirely... http://img.tranceaddict.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

love the attacks. Keep them coming. Great way to argue a point right?

I could give a shit about the 1-2 minute transitions a dj pulls using filters and faders and effects. It comes down to the tracks they play. And if a producer plays a bunch of killer tracks, order doesnt matter because all tracks are good. There is no need for a slow start to a high end. One by one they all kick ass. When you leave an event, people ask what tracks that dj played that were his - like did prdyz play any pryda tracks... not did he transition well from track to track. That is the second question asked. I dont step into a club and when i hear a transition coming i focus so hard to pick up the transition. Hell, everyone cheers when the transition ends and when the actual song begins that they want. So im saing for many and myself, its the track seletion not order. If every track is great, the set is great. If this is a producer playing their tracks live, i go to support the tracks the producer made and not his djing skills. He just HAS TO dj to be able to play them himself/herself. So with tiesto and pvd and armin and all, that you all complain about, people voted because they feel the tracks kicked ass one by one, and not who used filters this way and that. If producers soley gave tracks to "djs" and didnt want to play them themselves, then dj polls woiuld truly be about dj skills and not track selection because its all in the hands of the dj to pick what tracks from producers to play.

Read G-Cons post again

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yea... a dj to me is someone who plays good tracks. If some producer has amazing tracks and plays those in with other great tracks, they get my vote. That to me is being a dj. Not transitioning but having a great set. And to me a set isnt about slow start to high end, its one track after another. So for instance A&B get my vote because they throw amazing tracks with no order for transitions, they start amazing right off the bat. They dont transition the best, but when they dj at a club, they own it.

You're a fool.

It does take flow, it DOES take some progression and it takes a LOT more than just playing all your bombs one after another, your CD case would empty pretty fucking quickly and the novelty of going to see that DJ would wear off REALLY fast if all they did every gig was play all their biggest tunes in a row with 0 order or flow.

Think about what you're saying man, you sound like a pill popping n00b to me.

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In my many years of listening to electronica and lurking into various genres and djs i think the best ive heard are:

Danny Howells
Matthew Dear
Richie Hawtin
Ricardo Villalobos
Dave Clarke
James Zabiela
Damian Lazarus
Lee Burridge
Apparat
Miguel Migs
Trentemoller
Steve Lawler 1999-2003

i dont know who agrees with me on that one, but ide also add Laurent Garnier, Sultan, Mark Farina

Actually far from a noob but its cool. I know it takes order but that isnt the big thing in deciding if you like a dj or not. It comes down to what they play. Why is there a demand for playlist and not effectlist and discussions on how they transition and mix between tracks? And why would someone run out of hits? If a dj brings noth9ing but killer hits from their own tracks and others, how is that a shitty night? Why go through the shitty 5 boring intro tracks before you get to the good ones? Like Sasha, i hate his dj skills becuase of this. He starts of with 5-6 tracks that kills all the hype that was there from the intro dj. Sasha messes with filters over and over before he truly gets people liking his sets - when the tracks he really wants to play kick in. I find this retarded. THere are opening djs to set people going, the headliner doesnt need to do this all over again, killing the crowd and then leading them back up.


Whatever, to each their own, its a poll when it comes down to it. But hey, if i am so wrong, how did armin and pvd and what not make it so high? They dont dj as well as the ones you mention here in the complaints section that are ranked so low. The sets are top notch because of the track selection.

Such an unbelievable amount of effort to argue such an asinine point.

Bravo. http://images19.fotki.com/v276/photos/1/192770/797460/cowboymike-vi.gif

Edit: And this right here pretty much says it all...

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Originally posted by element-y Actually far from a noob but its cool. . . . But hey, if i am so wrong, how did armin and pvd and what not make it so high? They dont dj as well as the ones you mention here in the complaints section that are ranked so low. The sets are top notch because of the track selection.

If you don't "get" why they placed so high, it's really clear just how little a clue you have.

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Originally posted by element-y yea... a dj to me is someone who plays good tracks. If some producer has amazing tracks and plays those in with other great tracks, they get my vote. That to me is being a dj. Not transitioning but having a great set. And to me a set isnt about slow start to high end, its one track after another. So for instance A&B get my vote because they throw amazing tracks with no order for transitions, they start amazing right off the bat. They dont transition the best, but when they dj at a club, they own it.

dumbest post I've ever witnessed in TA so far...

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Originally posted by element-y Why is there a demand for playlist and not effectlist and discussions on how they transition and mix between tracks?

That is a factual error. You have to look no further than this message board to find discussions about mixing, transitions and the technical aspects of djing in general.




Do you have the slightest idea of how retarded you are, or are you just blissfully ignorant of whatever it is that's wrong with you? I'm just curious.

My money is on blissful, self-righteous ignorance.

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