are you anti abortion too nou?

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean how can suicide not be the choice of the person doing it?

Of course it is. I meant not NOU's choice. As in, not anyone else's choice but the person doing it.

aaaaalright.

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Originally posted by epicaricacy are you anti abortion too nou?

No. I am pro-choice.

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Originally posted by jennypie Uh, how you even got to this point I don't know.

Because you allow people to take themselves out of the gene pool and you justify it because they are mentally handicapped, then obviously a more proactive method would be to cull them from the start. Prevent those genetic lines from even starting. Less depressed people means a more happy and productive society.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Thats not the point though. Its the psychological aspect of a suicide bomber that makes people really scared. These people are willing to kill themselves, straight up with out a doubt die, for their cause.

Their lives aren't worth much to begin with, so they are hardly making any big sacrifice. Moreover, I doubt that death is the greatest contribution they could make to their cause. It's really kind of pathetic.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby No. I am pro-choice.

Seeing such intense stupidity, as well as such certainty for the rationales for what is a very personal decision, from most sides of this debate is making me want to kill myself...

The only thing I'm sure about when it comes to someone's choice to end it is that at that time, they didn't want to live anymore. Some people make an impulsive decision and some people go though 15-20 years of suffering where they want to die a good percentage of the time, but hope that it'll change someday, somehow. Everyone's different. Stop trying to make it sound like you understand it completely. Most of you have no experience with it personally, and even if you do, it's too small of a sample size to make sure broad generalizations.

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I wonder how many times Nou has thought about killing himself?

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Originally posted by Arbiter Their lives aren't worth much to begin with, so they are hardly making any big sacrifice. Moreover, I doubt that death is the greatest contribution they could make to their cause. It's really kind of pathetic.

Thats still not the point. The people on the receiving side get that sense of fear. "Fear of death does not thwart these people" etc fear.

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Originally posted by jennypie I wonder how many times Nou has thought about killing himself?

Twice. Very serious contemplations over situations that I was dealing with in my life.

My realization?

If I am dead, than I am dead, what good is that for anyone? I am not better off. I am fucking dead! My family isnt better off, they lost a son.

So why do it? Its fucking pointless and will only hurt people that I care about deeply. They did nothing to me. I have nothing to spite them for.

So yea. Its something you can think about, but if you have any sense of empathy for the ones you love you realize that you play a role outside of your own Id and you are part of other peoples lives. You can not make selfish decisions like that.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Seeing such intense stupidity, as well as such certainty for the rationales for what is a very personal decision, from most sides of this debate is making me want to kill myself... The only thing I'm sure about when it comes to someone's choice to end it is that at that time, they didn't want to live anymore. Some people make an impulsive decision and some people go though 15-20 years of suffering where they want to die a good percentage of the time, but hope that it'll change someday, somehow. Everyone's different. Stop trying to make it sound like you understand it completely. Most of you have no experience with it personally, and even if you do, it's too small of a sample size to make sure broad generalizations.

This. End of discussion.