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| quote: | Originally posted by DJLocoMoco
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the 18 pages of this thread I did not see one person "defend" Saddam. We're all in agreement that Saddam needs to be removed from power, the debate lies in whether or not we support the means by which this is being done.
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I don't understand. We all agree Saddam should be removed. What then do you propose is the best way to get rid of him? Every anti american calls this war illegal. It's just another example of american 'imperialism'. Americans are in Iraq for oil, they are there for a trading partner, they are there only for the pursuit of thier own interests. Yet you still admit Saddam should be removed.
I'll tell you what I have found though searching the 18 pages of this forum. I see lots of american hatred. I see criticism of the american government, criticism of the american foreign policy I even see criticism of the american people. But nowhere do i see legitimate arguements against the method americans have choosen to rid Iraq of Saddam. As moco says we all agree he should be removed. That is the real argument here. This is not a pro/anti American debate. If you don't like the american government, if you dont like the american people, that is your right. But that is not the issue here. The issue here is this war. We all know past presidents in past governments have done some awful things. Whether america trained assasins in 1946 or not is not relevant to this war. Lkd we know you hate america and most of us here are fully aware of past american agression, you arn't enlightening anybody. You arn't presenting any new or original ideas here. You arnt telling us anything we dont already know.
The fact is Saddam has assasinated hundreds of thousands of his own people, those of course being arab women and children. He has threated america in the past, has developed chemical and biological weapons and if you know he has used it against his own people, his own flesh and blood, isnt it logical to assume he would use it against his sworn enemy. No he wouldnt use them against american civilians. There's no proof of that. He only killed hundreds of thousands of his own people and his own family, there's absolutely no proof he would use them against a country he calls the great Satan. Damn those american imperialists for assuming he would.
Hating Americans doesn't make you more educated, it doesn't make you more intelligent. Ok? Stop pretending you are on some higher plane than people who do support this war. Please stop calling people ignorant or sick fucks or whatever. Nobody on here has presented any good arguements against the war, and there are many good ones. All you have done is insult americans, insult a nation of people, which, of course, is alright when it's america. Saying I hate americans is completely different than saying I hate Africans, or I hate Arabs. Isnt it? You know what, i really don't care if you insult them or not, just try to stick with the right debate.
If we all agree Saddam has to be removed, the only question that remains is how it should be done. Here's a little request, instead of rambling about how much you hate americans, instead of whining about injustices that happened 40 years ago come up with some intelligent arguements against the war, what do you think the world should do? If Saddam has to go, then how should he be dealt with. How should the world handle Iraq and ensure the safety of American civilians, ensure that iraqis are free from opression, persecution and genocide and are safe with a democratic government. Leaving the situation alone.. letting Saddam rebuild his army and letting his power foster isnt the answer. So what exactly is the answer?
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