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DJ NEMESIS
Ex trance slayer



Registered: May 2001
Location: Vancouver/Canada/Earth

^a bit early in the day to be smashed isn't it?

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
One can only hope.

KiNeTiC ENeRgY: I hope you realize that you're being twice the ass that you claim Mr Mystery to be.. adding the same negativity and petty BS to the forum that you accuse him of. We don't need to hear it and thusfar it hasn't even been very clever so take it to the pm's cause it doesn't belong in this thread.

quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
The problem with saying that we all need to do something about it is "What are we suppose to do?"
Whilst i really want trance to get big again, or at the very least just keep going, it's not exactly high on my list of priorities of things to do.
"Lets do something about it" is a nice idea, I appreciate the sentiment but its unrealistic

Wow, you have a fairly disappointing pessimistic outlook of things. Just because you personally don't have the time, determination, confidence, or care and choose to think of yourself as insignificant for being able to make any difference.. does NOT equate to something being unrealistic. The biggest mistake a person can make is thinking they can't make much of a difference.. because that is the point where you won't. If you don't care, that's one thing.. but if you do, you don't just lay down passively and take it in the ass! As for "what are we supposed to do" well there are a lot of things that could be done to make a positive difference to the trance scene. It starts with actually trying to think of things that could be improved.. it's not going to be any one thing. Anything that you can think of to improve things helps and has a ripple effect.

There are problems within the music side of thing, and there are problems within the event goer/fan side of things. Any positive things that can be done to improve either of these makes a difference. Whether it's finding ways to better support the good music/artists/djs (this doesn't simply end at buying their stuff or going to their shows) or finding ways to strengthen trance's fan base and draw more people into the scene. There are a lot of different ways to go about this and it's a lot more useful to try thinking of ways than to just ask someone else what to do.


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Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-M
c You're answer shows your looking at what you don't like, instead looking at what you do like.

Anyway, I think you know what the difference is between a sample and a melody, not?

So please try again, it's about the small sample he used. I cannot hear any common sounds with For An Angel. Armin also played this track at episode 257, I hope you listened to the same version.

ANYONE ELSE OF YOU TRANCEADDICTS WANNA GIVE IT A SHOT??


Okay, looks like you appreciate other things then I.

The sample, 303 sound, (which is not in the melody)which I mean is from:

EMMANUEL TOP - ACID PHASE

Can be found at TRANCE NATION 95 CD1 Track 2.


Since many complain about Trance nowadays, I can appreciate this classic sound.

By the way, Racoon is a Dutch band. Armin made a Remix of there hit "Love you more".
http://www.racoon.nl

Tiesto did the same great thing with Rain Down On Me from KANE. Live version at the first Tiesto in Concert was fantastic.


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stevėsto
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL

for the first time, sensation white 2006 had more house than trance. im hearing reports that electro is more popular in netherlands than trance. what the hell is this world coming to.

nemesis, what the hell are we supposed to do about it? the only thing I can think of is make anti electro t shirts, like a red circle with a line through it, because i truly believe electro is what's killing trance.

what I've done to help trance is what I've been doing all along: i send my friends good trance live sets. I just mailed 3 dvd's of videos and stuff to my friend in cali. they almost always say the stuff rocks and want more of it, but they also say they still like ELECTRO.


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DJ NEMESIS
Ex trance slayer



Registered: May 2001
Location: Vancouver/Canada/Earth

quote:
Originally posted by stevėsto
for the first time, sensation white 2006 had more house than trance. im hearing reports that electro is more popular in netherlands than trance. what the hell is this world coming to.

nemesis, what the hell are we supposed to do about it? the only thing I can think of is make anti electro t shirts, like a red circle with a line through it, because i truly believe electro is what's killing trance.

what I've done to help trance is what I've been doing all along: i send my friends good trance live sets. I just mailed 3 dvd's of videos and stuff to my friend in cali. they almost always say the stuff rocks and want more of it, but they also say they still like ELECTRO.

haha.. electro isn't what's killing trance.. I'm a firm believer that the damage is coming from the trance scene internally as it's clearly been thrown off balance and not taking to the changes very well or sustaining itself well enough. I love great electro personally, the electro I play has so many progressive elements to me that it just feels like another form of energetic progressive house. Some fresh sounds which I am finding tracks with elements of progressive, techno, and disco rolled into one. There's crap, but same as any genre the good and the bad.

There's a fair amount of excitement in the scene towards electro.. and that excitement spreads. That's why hype is so important, cause it's excitement, it spreads and draws more people to it. The trance scene needs things to get a bit more interesting and exciting to those within it as well as to outsiders. I have one key idea to make things a bit more interesting/positive around here which I'm going to bring up soon. But really, there are a lot of different angles and things to try and when enough people get on board and motivated and taking some ownership in the state of things and wanting to help, then we will most certainly start to see some differences. I don't need to tell any of you how many countless times in history a whole bunch of people getting on the same page with something and getting motivated were able to make big influential things happen.


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basd
progression



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Somewhere nowhere

quote:
Originally posted by stevėsto
for the first time, sensation white 2006 had more house than trance. im hearing reports that electro is more popular in netherlands than trance. what the hell is this world coming to.

Are we supposed to keep offering trance, when it's really mostly foreigners expecting us to do so?

I've heard almost no one complain about the line-up here in Holland, all the whining about "Sensation white should have more trance" comes from foreigners, who clearly don't even know what Sensation is all about.

Sorry to burst your bubble, we've moved on.


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GoSpeedGo!
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
Wow, you have a fairly disappointing pessimistic outlook of things.


That depends... He may be quite realistic in his thoughts, while you are an incorrigible idealist.


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Cobalt
Trance Isn't Trance



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

Good riddance to trance in Holland, I say. It can only do good for the vitality of the genre.

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DJ NEMESIS
Ex trance slayer



Registered: May 2001
Location: Vancouver/Canada/Earth

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
That depends... He may be quite realistic in his thoughts, while you are an incorrigible idealist.

There's nothing realistic about thinking you can't make a difference or building up a mental wall about what you can and can't do. I've spent a good portion of my life outside the box walking through those invisible walls people build up about different things. There are much greater challenges in the world than helping to repair the trance scene.


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Phortastic
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Limburg, Belgium

quote:
Originally posted by stevėsto
because i truly believe electro is what's killing trance.


LOL, this is a classic


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Trance-M
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Location: Limburg, Netherlands

What a coincidence.
I was look at a google video of Love Parade 2006

Emmanuel Top - Acid Phase

First track:

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


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stevėsto
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Are we supposed to keep offering trance, when it's really mostly foreigners expecting us to do so?

I've heard almost no one complain about the line-up here in Holland, all the whining about "Sensation white should have more trance" comes from foreigners, who clearly don't even know what Sensation is all about.

Sorry to burst your bubble, we've moved on.


i looked back at this thread:

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...threadid=328698

and you're right the lineup complaints came from every country except holland.

so trance is not the most popular form of dance music currently in holland? but it was just mentioned earlier in the thread by a few people that trance is strong as ever in europe. NL is like the last fort stronghold of trance. if we lose NL, trance is surely doomed. shit.


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stevėsto
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS

There's a fair amount of excitement in the scene towards electro.. and that excitement spreads. That's why hype is so important, cause it's excitement, it spreads and draws more people to it. The trance scene needs things to get a bit more interesting and exciting to those within it as well as to outsiders. I have one key idea to make things a bit


maybe this new trance track is the direction trance needs to go to stay alive?

http://audiojelly.com/details.cfm?id=21201


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