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interestingly, Mozart was considered "mindless trash" in his day, because he could just crank out new music.

/ducks


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MrJiveBoJingles
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interestingly, Mozart was considered "mindless trash" in his day, because he could just crank out new music.

Where are you getting that?

Bach could "crank out new music" as well, perhaps even more efficiently than Mozart, but no one ever considered his stuff "mindless trash." As a court or church musician in the 17th and 18th century, you either "cranked out new music" or you got fired. So as you might imagine churning out new stuff each week was pretty common at that time.

Of course the general attitude then was that all composers were "lackeys" of sorts, paid employees meant to please their employers in the courts and churches, not "artists" displaying their own independent visions to the public at large. But that social fact says little about attitudes toward Mozart's music in particular. Cultural icons like Goethe and Haydn praised Mozart when they heard his compositions, so I'm inclined to think that you just pulled that statement out of your ass.

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Ivand
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Supermayer - 2 Of Us (Deadmau5 Edit) (Kompakt)
Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink (Deadmau5 Edit) (Border Community)

Fuck...


i think i died inside a little


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deadmau5
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Where are you getting that?

Bach could "crank out new music" as well, perhaps even more efficiently than Mozart, but no one ever considered his stuff "mindless trash." As a court or church musician in the 17th and 18th century, you either "cranked out new music" or you got fired. So as you might imagine churning out new stuff each week was pretty common at that time.

Of course the general attitude then was that all composers were "lackeys" of sorts, paid employees meant to please their employers in the courts and churches, not "artists" displaying their own independent visions to the public at large. But that social fact says little about attitudes toward Mozart's music in particular. Cultural icons like Goethe and Haydn praised Mozart when they heard his compositions, so I'm inclined to think that you just pulled that statement out of your ass.



leave it to trance addict to throw in mozart, danny howells, the bernstein bears, the mother fuckin easter bunny and some ninjas for good measure, into some thread made up of 99.9% "whine" because some self proclaimed "critics" don't like what i want to do with my music.

i am eternally grateful that, no matter what, at the end of the day i can still run my musical career however the hell i want. *bonus* you don't have to love it.


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Lebezniatnikov
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interestingly, Mozart was considered "mindless trash" in his day, because he could just crank out new music.

/ducks


What? Dude, Mozart was lauded by kings.


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Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by deadmau5
leave it to trance addict to throw in mozart, danny howells, the bernstein bears, the mother fuckin easter bunny and some ninjas for good measure, into some thread made up of 99.9% "whine" because some self proclaimed "critics" don't like what i want to do with my music.

i am eternally grateful that, no matter what, at the end of the day i can still run my musical career however the hell i want. *bonus* you don't have to love it.


I don't recall anyone mentioning the Berenstein Bears. I think you meant to say "leave it to trance addict to compare people who care about advancing music into a thread about people who just want to self-promote."


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deadmau5
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I don't recall anyone mentioning the Berenstein Bears. I think you meant to say "leave it to trance addict to compare people who care about advancing music into a thread about people who just want to self-promote."


so i should leave the promoting to..... you? i'll take my chances with the ninjas bro.

** i didnt start this thread... i just jumped in for a laugh. mission accomplished!


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Its just a matter of perspective. If you're happy playing for the big fuck-off festival crowd, making rather formulaic predictable dance music for the masses, bomb.com...you're gonna make bank sooner or later (that means props to Joel Zimmerman), it's clear tons of people are already loving it.


Some of us would rather search for something deeper, push creativity and inspiration further, and strive to be more like DJs such as Howells, or producers like The Mole. We'll always be that fringe viewpoint that generates this kind of backlash...fortunately for all of us dance music is big enough to where all of these perspectives can exist and thrive, even though there is friction when they meet, like in this thread.


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Stef
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Deanmau5 played the normal sick deadmua5 set tag with bsod before his set but it was a crazy he got the nyc crowd going on the 19th but I was hoping there where gonna be more tas didn't see so many but if u guys saw some one playing with photon orbits and blue sunglass that had blue lsd light in them that was me hope to see u all at pvd and mike aka push at love for the pvd after party


I believe you are leaving out some details as to why you were using photons that whole time.


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Lebezniatnikov
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so i should leave the promoting to..... you? i'll take my chances with the ninjas bro.

** i didnt start this thread... i just jumped in for a laugh. mission accomplished!


So did the "ninjas" create that EM setlist too?


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you people and your internets

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Stef
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Its just a matter of perspective. If you're happy playing for the big fuck-off festival crowd, making rather formulaic predictable dance music for the masses, bomb.com...you're gonna make bank sooner or later (that means props to Joel Zimmerman), it's clear tons of people are already loving it.


If he enjoys what he is doing and so do the people that he plays for, what exactly is wrong? Go ahead and argue technical points, but at the end of the day it all comes down to whether you are enjoying yourself and waking up in the morning ready to do what you love.


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