LKD, I wish the ICC (international criminal court) could be of help here but the fact of the matter is...You still have to somehow get Saddam to show up. I can just picture the officer serving the subpona.."uh...Mr Hussein...uh...can you come to Holland and stand trial for war crimes?" "No. Fuck you" " UH then...have a nice day!". HE wouldn't go forcebly so people would still have to come in arrest him you know? Also, I don't think assasination would help one bit. It only seems to incite people. Remember, WW2 was started because Archduke Ferdinand was assasinated. I think that the middle east would become worse than it is right now. Also, The Geneva convention states that people can't be put through humiliated treatment and showing dead soldiers/POWs in really rough shape. Showing people who are scared out of their minds is quite humiliating for not only the soldiers but also their families.

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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle LKD, I wish the ICC (international criminal court) could be of help here but the fact of the matter is...You still have to somehow get Saddam to show up. I can just picture the officer serving the subpona.."uh...Mr Hussein...uh...can you come to Holland and stand trial for war crimes?" "No. Fuck you" " UH then...have a nice day!". HE wouldn't go forcebly so people would still have to come in arrest him you know? Also, I don't think assasination would help one bit. It only seems to incite people. Remember, WW2 was started because Archduke Ferdinand was assasinated. I think that the middle east would become worse than it is right now. Also, The Geneva convention states that people can't be put through humiliated treatment and showing dead soldiers/POWs in really rough shape. Showing people who are scared out of their minds is quite humiliating for not only the soldiers but also their families.

well this current war is on the verge of WW3 too man...the final war aint far away.....its sad but true...



and during the first gulf war, when CNN journalists still had access to Iraq, dead Iraqi soldiers were shown on TV...and as i mentioned before, they were showing dead taliban soldiers as well during the afhanistan war last year

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I haven't seen those pics (I can't remember...I was in grade 1 during the first Gulf War) so if/when I see them, I will concede that point. And also, I think that you and a lot of others are vastly overestimating the possibility of a WW3 here. I think the only way a huge war on the scales of the first two WW will be if countries start launching nukes all over the place.

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Also, my views on the Taliban fight and this fight are completely different. I do not agree with how the US just imprisoned everyone they captured indefinitly (they get away with this cause no one recognizes the Taliban I believe). Also, I think there was something like 135 combat deaths in the first Gulf War and I can't even fathom the number of people who died in the two world wars.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee well this current war is on the verge of WW3 too man...the final war aint far away.....its sad but true... and during the first gulf war, when CNN journalists still had access to Iraq, dead Iraqi soldiers were shown on TV...and as i mentioned before, they were showing dead taliban soldiers as well during the afhanistan war last year

Afghanistan "soldiers" (as you called them) are not classified as soldiers under the Geneva conventions. Coalition forces could do anything they please with the prisoners if they wanted too.

Also, alot of Iraqies are abandoning their uniforms and going back home, only to make a stand from their homes. Once they abandon their uniforms they are no longer "soldiers", just a bunch of gutless pricks.

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg Afghanistan "soldiers" (as you called them) are not classified as soldiers under the Geneva conventions. Coalition forces could do anything they please with the prisoners if they wanted too. Also, alot of Iraqies are abandoning their uniforms and going back home, only to make a stand from their homes. Once they abandon their uniforms they are no longer "soldiers", just a bunch of gutless pricks.

funny u call them gutless when they surrender

the other side u pro war people are saying that the Iraqi army shouldve surrendered to avoid the war

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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle Remember, WW2 was started because Archduke Ferdinand was assasinated.

Assasination of Archduke Ferdinand triggered WW1, and coincidentaly, he was assasinated in my hometown, Sarajevo.

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Originally posted by TranceGeek Assasination of Archduke Ferdinand triggered WW1, and coincidentaly, he was assasinated in my hometown, Sarajevo.

The package has been wrapped

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Originally posted by dEsidEL "No peace among the nations without peace among the religions. No peace among religions without dialogue between the religions. No dialogue between the religions without investigation of the foundation of the religions." - Hans Küng

true, hehe

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20 pages later and almost a week after the start of the American-led aggression, it’s good to see that most fellow tranceaddicts denounce hypocritical imperialist terrorism in Iraq; however it’s repugnant to observe that some of us still can’t detect the transparent bully scheme of our southern neighbors, by digesting CNN’s balderdash and American propaganda.

The whole planet is against this American invasion yet Bush calls it Operation Iraqi Freedom. It’s interesting to observe that mad cowboy's asinine scheme of liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein within a week is turning into a farce. What Iraqi people are liberating themselves from is the aggression from another vile tyrant on the other side of the globe, who seems to think that America is the superpower who will do what they want when they want and in their interest. Imposing democracy by undemocratic means is thoroughly despicable, invading a country though false pretenses is a misdemeanor of the uttermost nature. The hypocrisy is downright outrageous!

Anyone who bothers to perform even a rudimentary scrutiny of American involvement in Iraq will find the supposed groundwork for this war simply bogus. Bush’s grasping at straws to justify this invasion to the world is pitiable and shame to all the gutless cowards who stand alongside this bully, that includes the heads of all the allies from Azerbaijan to Eritrea.

Cheers

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Originally posted by Tudo Beleza The reason that the USA does not assassinate leaders http://edition.cnn.com/2002/LAW/11/...ination.policy/ In 1976, President Ford issued Executive Order 11905 to clarify U.S. foreign intelligence activities. The order was enacted in response to the post-Watergate revelations that the CIA had staged multiple attempts on the life of Cuban President Fidel Castro. In a section of the order labeled "Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Ford outlawed political assassination: Section 5(g), entitled "Prohibition on Assassination," states: "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."

i thought they reformed that .. ? it's an executive order anyways, so Bush can toss it out if he wants since it's not something passed by congress..

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Originally posted by Dj-HordasH 20 pages later and almost a week after the start of the American-led aggression, it’s good to see that most fellow tranceaddicts denounce hypocritical imperialist terrorism in Iraq; however it’s repugnant to observe that some of us still can’t detect the transparent bully scheme of our southern neighbors, by digesting CNN’s balderdash and American propaganda. The whole planet is against this American invasion yet Bush calls it Operation Iraqi Freedom. It’s interesting to observe that mad cowboy's asinine scheme of liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein within a week is turning into a farce. What Iraqi people are liberating themselves from is the aggression from another vile tyrant on the other side of the globe, who seems to think that America is the superpower who will do what they want when they want and in their interest. Imposing democracy by undemocratic means is thoroughly despicable, invading a country though false pretenses is a misdemeanor of the uttermost nature. The hypocrisy is downright outrageous! Anyone who bothers to perform even a rudimentary scrutiny of American involvement in Iraq will find the supposed groundwork for this war simply bogus. Bush’s grasping at straws to justify this invasion to the world is pitiable and shame to all the gutless cowards who stand alongside this bully, that includes the heads of all the allies from Azerbaijan to Eritrea. Cheers

has anyone seen the documentaries on CBC - The Passionate Eye on "The War Behind Closed Doors" and the Patriot Missile scandal .. ?

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