Even now people are discussing if it was a foul ot not. Then how could the referee decide this from afar in the heat of the moment? It was clearly not an obvious call and in these kind of situations the goalie is favored. Football is alot about luck and in this case England didn't have any. But I don't think it was there that England got kicked out. It was when Sven made some early defensive substitutions and I also think you didn't play very well against Portugal. Owens goal was amazing though.

Makes you wonder if cameras should be allowed to help the referee decide difficult situations though. I dont really like the idea, but there are so many referee mistakes in football that I feel something must be done.

refs know about the trick that english player was trying to pull.

wasn't it weird to see Ricardo trying to jump but no able to as if some force held him on the ground??? The english player should've been carded at best... anyways, who cares now, the English are out for at least 2 years now.

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Originally posted by malek refs know about the trick that english player was trying to pull. wasn't it weird to see Ricardo trying to jump but no able to as if some force held him on the ground??? The english player should've been carded at best... anyways, who cares now, the English are out for at least 2 years now.

carded? are you fucking kidding me? You obviously have no conception of the game you fucking stupid moron! Here we intelligent, knowledgeable football fans are debating whether it was a foul and you're suggesting it was a carded offense AT BEST? You have just proven your total lack of football sense. Get the hell off these boards you idiot. You don't even deserve to be watching this game, let alone blathering on about it.

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I think there have always been man ref. mistakes, it just seems much more nowadays cause 1, with dozens of cameras and slow-mo's every milisecond from any possible angle can be observed and analysed 2, the game has become gradually faster and harder to follow.
Still, humans make mistakes, players as much as refs. Part of the game, part of life.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 carded? are you fucking kidding me? You obviously have no conception of the game you fucking stupid moron! Here we intelligent, knowledgeable football fans are debating whether it was a foul and you're suggesting it was a carded offense AT BEST? You have just proven your total lack of football sense. Get the hell off these boards you idiot. You don't even deserve to be watching this game, let alone blathering on about it.

werd.


But IMO, i thought it was the correct decision by the ref. There was a clear obstrucion from Ricardo getting to the ball by terry. Also in saying that i seen keepers given free kicks for a lot less, but being the time of the incident it will be highlighted obviously. This time Sol shouldnt feel unlucky. Unlike in 98 when it was a clear goal against the argentinians

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few things,

we need to start using Bridge, Dyer, Robinson. Simple as that!

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one definite change....Goodbye Mr. James in goal. Awful, awful performance. It was like he just threw in the towel when it went to penalties. I could have stopped Ronaldo's PK!

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 carded? are you fucking kidding me? You obviously have no conception of the game you fucking stupid moron! Here we intelligent, knowledgeable football fans are debating whether it was a foul and you're suggesting it was a carded offense AT BEST? You have just proven your total lack of football sense. Get the hell off these boards you idiot. You don't even deserve to be watching this game, let alone blathering on about it.

hahahaha man, you make my day. The things I say to make you loose your mind!!!! ahahahahah what a total looser you are man!

I am obviously pushing your buttons man, wake up and get over the loss

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Originally posted by malek hahahaha man, you make my day. The things I say to make you loose your mind!!!! ahahahahah what a total looser you are man! I am obviously pushing your buttons man, wake up and get over the loss

actually...looks to me that you're just covering up for making a really stupid comment. But whatever...I'll get over it soon enough. England always blow it, so I'm used to it. But they're my team and country and I'll always support them no matter what.

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Originally posted by Ortemy BUT Portugal was extremly lucky last night. First with the valid goal being called off, and then winning penalty shoot out. Their luck might run out soon...

portugal wasn't lucky, they just played well. england just played very bad after the opening goal. and penalty shootouts are not a lottery, the best win and face it england just took poor penalties so they lost.they're not good at it. I know what that feels like, I'm Dutch.

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dear god. i thought it was bad enough over here when everybody thought abel xavier's hand was not a foul and complained about the ref but you guys are just the same or worse. get over it.

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