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Originally posted by ShadoWolf marriage predates all the existing religions

Now why dont we let the rest of the fundie's in on this...and just let the word be what it is. Unions...Marriage, same shit, different smell.

All you need to know about Noah's Ark:

http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html

noahs ark:

there is a common misconception inherent in most peoples understanding of the event. The phrases of "one of every animal" give people thoughts of a floating mega-zoo, replete with aviaries, marshes, and savannas.

But, the one thing we tend to forget, especially when talkin in religious circles, is that there is a little thing called micro evolution. Darwins birds and the moths of london show us the very answer to how Noah may have been able to do such a thing.

All he really needed was a horse "type" a bird "type" a dog "type" etc. There is really very little difference between a zebra and a horse, a coyote and a hyena. This in the end would take the needed animals down substantially. The dimension of the ark were still fairly large, I forget the exact # of train cargo cars in space, but it kind of made sense in a way.

Still, wild story, and I dont quite know where I stand on it. There is a semi-valid explanation for it I guess hehe...Im not saying its ironclad, but you can think of it that way, helps a bit

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Originally posted by Rodrico Now why dont we let the rest of the fundie's in on this...and just let the word be what it is. Unions...Marriage, same shit, different smell.

(for tens of thousands of years) it was always marriage between a man and a woman

"gay marriage" is an invention of the 21st century

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Originally posted by Rodrico I bet you actually enjoyed saying, Thank God for that sentence.

hehe, maybe it was a little cynical of me

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf (for tens of thousands of years) it was always marriage between a man and a woman "gay marriage" is an invention of the 21st century

I think that predates written history. I cant remember i think writing is only 6,000 years old?

ok i checked, yay i remembered it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/334517.stm

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Originally posted by Orbax noahs ark: there is a common misconception inherent in most peoples understanding of the event. The phrases of "one of every animal" give people thoughts of a floating mega-zoo, replete with aviaries, marshes, and savannas. But, the one thing we tend to forget, especially when talkin in religious circles, is that there is a little thing called micro evolution. Darwins birds and the moths of london show us the very answer to how Noah may have been able to do such a thing. All he really needed was a horse "type" a bird "type" a dog "type" etc. There is really very little difference between a zebra and a horse, a coyote and a hyena. This in the end would take the needed animals down substantially. The dimension of the ark were still fairly large, I forget the exact # of train cargo cars in space, but it kind of made sense in a way. Still, wild story, and I dont quite know where I stand on it. There is a semi-valid explanation for it I guess hehe...Im not saying its ironclad, but you can think of it that way, helps a bit

Naw, because not even Darwin's birds could explain the billions of animals present in every place of this world, are you telling me Noah put the penguins in the Antartic, and the Kaola's and Kangaroos in Australia, while he put the Grizzlys in North America, and managed all this in one life time while being limited to boat and foot? Sorry, cant be done..nope.

Unless of course you believe in...Pangea!

nah, I dunno. I mean, someone could take facts like the mitochondrial DNA studies done that have shown ealier forms of hominids arent actually related to us. This kind of showing that young earths 6k rule is out.

That means humans or forms of humans could have been round long enough for this to happen in Pangea. or something close enough not to matter and let migrations happen.

So who knows? Basically what im saying is that anyone can prove what they want to believe to themselves hehe

yeah thats true if you want to believe in a Noahs/Evolutionist kind of hippy logic... hehe