lol, ok, I'm an elitist. But not the kind of elitist that sticks to one genre and defends it no matter what. I just don't respect music that is poorly produced, uninspired, unoriginal and unimaginative (wow, those words are so over-used in this thread).

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

Perhaps our opinions of elitism slightly differ. I'll offer my take.

Elitists believe they have an inherent intellectual superiority over a particular subject, in this case music. They refuse to associate with or cater to said particular subject because they feel they are 'better' than it.

Ory has mentioned that he listens to a wide variety of genres, not discriminating against a particular style because he feels that he is above it or shouldn't lower himself to associate with it.

He simply chooses not to listen to radio play or 'McProg' because, in his opinion, most of it is formulaic shit music that is packaged and released for the masses with a certain extent of disregard to the quality of the 'package.' In many cases, I would have to agree.

We are entited to our own opinions, are we not?

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Originally posted by UWM Perhaps our opinions of elitism slightly differ. I'll offer my take. Elitists believe they have an inherent intellectual superiority over a particular subject, in this case music. They refuse to associate with or cater to said particular subject because they feel they are 'better' than it. Ory has mentioned that he listens to a wide variety of genres, not discriminating against a particular style because he feels that he is above it or shouldn't lower himself to associate with it. He simply chooses not to listen to radio play or 'McProg' because, in his opinion, most of it is formulaic shit music that is packaged and released for the masses with a certain extent of disregard to the quality of the 'package.' In many cases, I would have to agree. We are entited to our own opinions, are we not?

An elitist is someone who is biased against a certain thing because of image rather than actual content. Listening to several genres of music doesn't exempt someone from this.

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You're either missing my point on purpose and just trying to aggravate me, or you're missing it on accident.

Either way, I'm done.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J An elitist is someone who is biased against a certain thing because of image rather than actual content. Listening to several genres of music doesn't exempt someone from this.

McProg lovers listen to crap productions that only have an "image" because Markus/Armin promoted the track.

And UWM, I do think my taste in music is better than your average McProg listener's. Why? I've told y'all why so many times in this thread already.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory I just don't respect music that is poorly produced, uninspired, unoriginal and unimaginative (wow, those words are so over-used in this thread).

That is just on persons opinion. I find the music very well produced. When I listen to ASOT/GDJB with my headphones on, I love hearing the delays twinkling around, also the melodies to me are very nice. Not in your face super saw. Subtle and deep. When I hear the breakdowns, most of the tracks have great ambience. You can really hear alot of different colors. To me this music is like abstract art. If you have a good ear, you are able to hear melodies and sounds in this music that isnt really there. That is why I love this style. It isnt in your face like other genres, and their are lots of hidden melodies that most people dont hear. I am only sorry that not everyone is able to hear the beauty.

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So many wrong definitions of elitist, only one correct:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=elitist
e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism Audio pronunciation of "elitist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-ltzm, -l-)
n.

1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.


elitist

n : someone who believes in rule by an elite group [ant: egalitarian]


By definition most tranceaddicts are elitists, most techno heads are elitists, most house heads are elitists, and so on.

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Originally posted by Durrrtysouth That is just on persons opinion. I find the music very well produced. When I listen to ASOT/GDJB with my headphones on, I love hearing the delays twinkling around, also the melodies to me are very nice. Not in your face super saw. Subtle and deep. When I hear the breakdowns, most of the tracks have great ambience. You can really hear alot of different colors. To me this music is like abstract art. If you have a good ear, you are able to hear melodies and sounds in this music that isnt really there. That is why I love this style. It isnt in your face like other genres, and their are lots of hidden melodies that most people dont hear. I am only sorry that not everyone is able to hear the beauty.

*sigh*

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory McProg lovers listen to crap productions that only have an "image" because Markus/Armin promoted the track.

Who are u to do this assumption?
I hope u've heard of this saying: Assumption is the mother of fuck ups!

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Originally posted by Ory And UWM, I do think my taste in music is better than your average McProg listener's. Why? I've told y'all why so many times in this thread already.

Better taste? How about sharing with us which 10 judges ure gonna pick to judge your taste in music, whether it's good or bad.

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Originally posted by Radagast 1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

My point. The percieved superiority in this case being that underground music is percieved as being better because it is not mainstream.

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you are all n00bs.


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Originally posted by AlphaStarred you are all n00bs. kthxcaseclosed

Lemme guess, psy is the future?

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