im surprised nobody has posted anything like this. I am putting my foot in my mouth. Finally a bit of factual substance

http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesex...vilmarriage.htm

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen this is a never ending circle, once again, what rights are gay couples missing with a civil union that they would be afforded with a "marriage?" nobody seems to be able to answer this question. If this directly effects you, and you are so passionate about it, shouldnt you know what right you are not granted?

What rights were Blacks not granted when "separate but equal" was in place? It is still discriminatory. Period. You are singling out a group of people due to their beliefs. You can not do that in the eyes of the law.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen im surprised nobody has posted anything like this. I am putting my foot in my mouth. Finally a bit of factual substance http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesex...vilmarriage.htm

Shit I really like this. I am forwarding it to my buddies parents. To prove they lose rights.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen this is a never ending circle, once again, what rights are gay couples missing with a civil union that they would be afforded with a "marriage?" nobody seems to be able to answer this question. If this directly effects you, and you are so passionate about it, shouldnt you know what right you are not granted?

see page one of this post.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen im surprised nobody has posted anything like this. I am putting my foot in my mouth. Finally a bit of factual substance http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesex...vilmarriage.htm

I'm surprised no one posted this either. And it proves so many points aside from the fact that maybe, just maybe, they would like to call the one they love "my husband" or "wife."

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Who da thunk it? A bunch of tranceheads would be so passionately political! Who ever thinks "clubbers are mindless pill popping machines that listen to simple, repetitive music" needs to look at this thread! I am so happy and impressed that I could engage in such a mind blowing discussion!

Anyways, I have a very human story that was told to me be a classmate yesterday. A girl's aunt is in a RDP with her partner of 7 years. Her partner was artificially insiminated (sp?) and she gave birth to triplets. One of the babies was born in critical condition, whence the child slowly died in intensive care. Throughout the two days immediately following the birth of her children, the girl's aunt was NOT ALLOWED to mourn with her partner, nor see her own child pass, because she was NOT next of kin. The hospital made it clear that it you are not married or related by blood to the mother of the child, you cannot be allowed to interfere in such a sensitive matter.

Makes you go hmmmmmm......

Good article djjoshuaallen

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Originally posted by DJ Reese I'm surprised no one posted this either. And it proves so many points aside from the fact that maybe, just maybe, they would like to call the one they love "my husband" or "wife."

you dont need the state in order to call your significant other anything you like IMO

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Originally posted by teknotexan Who da thunk it? A bunch of tranceheads would be so passionately political! Who ever thinks "clubbers are mindless pill popping machines that listen to simple, repetitive music" needs to look at this thread! I am so happy and impressed that I could engage in such a mind blowing discussion!

hmmm, well i dont think you will find such a thread on ravelinks lol

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Originally posted by Jake Benson There were mass Anti Prop 8 protests tonight in West Hollywood / Hollywood.

Thanks for the update, Jake. I posted about the upcoming rally/protest several hours before the event on several websites, including in this thread a couple of pages back. I don't know if it had much effect, but so far I've learned that at least three of my friends who went. I live in Hollywood and I was at the rally to support them also. There were at least five helicopters above us - probably news helicopters and possibly some cop helicopters to watch just in case things got out of hand. I didn't see the unfortunate beat-down of one of the protesters live, but later I saw it on the local news. It almost looked like another Rodney King incident - with three big cops all over one guy and one cop freely using his club despite the fact the victim didn't attack anyone and was merely trying to get back on the sidewalk and join his friends.

In terms of the other posts asking about the difference between NONheterosexual "marriage" verses "domestic partnership" (DP) there are plenty of significant differences. For one, in a DP, the lover's biological family trumps visitation rights and burial rights over that of the "spouse" - in a marriage, the spouse's rights trump that of the other spouse's biological family. Also there is a matter of taxation, which In2Musik brought up several posts back.......


"Here's an article that backs my point up...domestic partners must pay taxes on the employer paid portion (typically 80%) of their health insurance premiums, but married couples do not. In the example below, that amounted to $1,800 per year.

So for everyone who believes that domestic partners have exactly the same benefits as married couples, then all married couples should pay $1,800 more in taxes for their health insurance too, no? Think about it, if you had to take out your checkbook now and pay the IRS for that, then that's the only way things would be "equal" on this one of many issues that separate domestic partnerships from marriages."


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source: http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/mem...er_benefits.htm

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen you dont need the state in order to call your significant other anything you like IMO

Right, but legally you do. To be recognized, it is required.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

The prop is passing and there is nothing legally that can be done to over turn it.

I voted NO of course, but if you really wanna know how people really feel about this, discuss this with your parents. It will end in less than 5 minutes. The idea of same sex marriage grosses people out, most of my neighbors (who put up vote yes signs) just say its fine if they wanna live that life style but to get married, why? or God says that's wrong.

I propose Proposition 69 ban divorce, since marriage is so sacred.

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