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PivotTechno
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Registered: Feb 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by FuzzQi


I hope your quaint tinfoil hats pic isn't in reference to the links in my previous post, which come from mainstream sources such as USA Today, CNN, National Geographic and the UK Telegraph.

So what, then?


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FuzzQi
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Come on man I don't actually think you are a conspiracy theorist


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The17sss
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ugh... getting uglier....


quote:
Three days after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch government offered to help.

It was willing to provide ships outfitted with oil-skimming booms, and it proposed a plan for building sand barriers to protect sensitive marshlands.

The response from the Obama administration and BP, which are coordinating the cleanup: “The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,'” said Geert Visser, consul general for the Netherlands in Houston.

Now, almost seven weeks later, as the oil spewing from the battered well spreads across the Gulf and soils pristine beaches and coastline, BP and our government have reconsidered.

“What's wrong with accepting outside help?” Visser asked. “If there's a country that's experienced with building dikes and managing water, it's the Netherlands. Even if, three days after the rig exploded, it seemed as if the Dutch equipment and expertise wasn't needed, wouldn't it have been better to accept it, to err on the side of having too many resources available rather than not enough?”

U.S. ships are being outfitted this week with four pairs of the skimming booms airlifted from the Netherlands and should be deployed within days. Each pair can process 5 million gallons of water a day, removing 20,000 tons of oil and sludge. At that rate, how much more oil could have been removed from the Gulf during the past month?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl...fy/7043272.html


And this....

Jim Hoft reports that the oil booms that could be used to help mitigate the damage are sitting in a warehouse. And no one.... not the Department of the Interior, not DHS, not BP, not NOAA, not the EPA, not the Minerals Management Services, no one has bothered to pick them up. Or have them shipped to the Gulf.

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John Lapoint of Packgen in Auburn, Maine, says he’s got plenty of floating oil containment boom and can make lots more on short notice. There’s just one problem: no one will buy it from him.

He’s already had a representative from BP visit his factory and inspect his product. The governor of Maine, John Baldacci, visited the facility and made a video plea to no one in particular to close the deal. Maine Senators Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins wrote a letter on May 21 to the secretary of the Interior, the administrator of NOAA, and the commandant of the Coast Guard to alert them to the existence of Packgen, their supply of boom, and their demonstrated capacity to make more....

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/miles-...-or-u-s-to-use/

Flashback: 38 days ago, Bobby Jindal begged for this absorbant boom and has received only 20% of what he asked for. The rest is sitting in a warehouse. God I hate out government red tape.

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PivotTechno
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quote:
Originally posted by FuzzQi
Come on man I don't actually think you are a conspiracy theorist


No conspiracy in any of the links I posted, just greed.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
ugh... getting uglier....



http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl...fy/7043272.html


And this....

Jim Hoft reports that the oil booms that could be used to help mitigate the damage are sitting in a warehouse. And no one.... not the Department of the Interior, not DHS, not BP, not NOAA, not the EPA, not the Minerals Management Services, no one has bothered to pick them up. Or have them shipped to the Gulf.


http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/miles-...-or-u-s-to-use/

Flashback: 38 days ago, Bobby Jindal begged for this absorbant boom and has received only 20% of what he asked for. The rest is sitting in a warehouse. God I hate out government red tape.


Governments are useless bloodsuckers who can’t and don’t do anything useful man; leave it to the private sector they can do everything better!!


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any estimates on how much oil has already leaked into the ocean in barrels?

And how much is leaking now with the cap on?

BP has lost over 50% of market share.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
any estimates on how much oil has already leaked into the ocean in barrels?

And how much is leaking now with the cap on?

BP has lost over 50% of market share.


Dunno, but im pretty sure its obama’s fault.


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jester
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I am so happy I don't have BP in my stock portfolio. I feel bad for the people who have that part of their Mutual Fund portfolio or ETF or 401k.

BP probably soon going to axe 9100) jobs. I wonder how many of those are Americans.

If BP fails I wonder who will come to the rescue. The British Government or other oil companies from Russia or China.

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The17sss
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Governments are useless bloodsuckers who can’t and don’t do anything useful man; leave it to the private sector they can do everything better!!


You could feed a herd of cattle with all the straw in that argument; I am certainly not saying governments are useless and don't do anything useful. However, in this oil spill situation, yes the private sector is the entity with all the technology, innovation, expertise, and actual work experience in handling this particular matter as opposed to our government. Our government had an emergency plan in place since 1994 for something like this, that was pre-approved, and it didn't even get off the ground. Obviously a shit job has been done to this point, but with so many administrative blunders and red tape preventing contractors from moving forward because of government, we are where we are. Reminds me of during Katrina when New Orleans mayor Ray Nagan let 200 school busses that could have transported 5000+ people out of the city sit in a parking lot and get flooded because he had to have committee meetings about committee meetings about authorization, etc.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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You could feed a herd of cattle with all the straw in that argument; I am certainly not saying governments are useless and don't do anything useful.


I was merely paraphrasing all your political posts from the last 2 years.


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Lilith
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quote:
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I am so happy I don't have BP in my stock portfolio.

Depends, if they actually manage to plug the hole, get stung with the clean-up bill AND survive- their shares will be rock bottom, dividends will be cut and it might be an interesting time to speculate. Don't really think they'll go 'pop', more than likely be bought out by someone else, bit like what happened to Union Carbide after Bhopal.

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