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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Can you show us where? There's quite a bit there. Are you avoiding questions again? Please don't.

I don't know exactly where it is, I'll have to look for it.

And I never avoided questions in the first place.

But hey,you know it wouldn't hurt anyone to read the whole Bible anyway. Then again,you might actually learn something! That's probably why no one here wants to even pick it up.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 GOOD DEEDS WILL NOT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN. If that were the case,then why did Jesus even die on the cross? eh?

Because in that century the world was full of sin and they were awaiting someone to come and save them.
why do you think he died on the cross? it was to wash away the original sin as well as any other sins people had committed.

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Originally posted by albertoR Because in that century the world was full of sin and they were awaiting someone to come and save them. why do you think he died on the cross? it was to wash away the original sin as well as any other sins people had committed.

He died on the cross so that we could be reunited with God.
He's done it for us, we don't have to do good deeds to get to heaven,because Jesus has already died for us.

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Nellie, could you answer my question from page 20 please? You seem to have skimmed over it.

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 He died on the cross so that we could be reunited with God. He's done it for us, we don't have to do good deeds to get to heaven,because Jesus has already died for us.

oh no good deeds anymore? that makes no sense. so were all automatically welcomed to heaven just because he died?
Jesus died because of the mortal or original sin (adam and eve's sin) that is all.
Also, how do you expect someone who is born in India, or China, or Tibet to accept Jesus if his parents are Hinduist or Buddhist? They were never introduced to the religion so they couldn't reject it. In this case, would God still send them to hell? I think you should revaluate what you are saying, its completely illogical.

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Originally posted by albertoR oh no good deeds anymore? that makes no sense. so were all automatically welcomed to heaven just because he died? Jesus died because of the mortal or original sin (adam and eve's sin) that is all. Also, how do you expect someone who is born in India, or China, or Tibet to accept Jesus if his parents are Hinduist or Buddhist? They were never introduced to the religion so they couldn't reject it. In this case, would God still send them to hell? I think you should revaluate what you are saying, its completely illogical.

No,I have explained this a billion times. You aren't listening to me,obviously.

He died on the cross so that we DON'T HAVE TO go to hell. The choice is up to us, One again If we accept him as our Lord and Savior and repent for our sins and give our life to him. THEN we are permitted into heaven. But, if we reject Jesus, then you aren't permitted into heaven. Crystal clear? It should be by now.

It's not illogical, Only God knows our hearts. Now,there is an age of accountablility,and I don't believe God will send someone to hell if they have never heard about Him.But,that's almost totally impossible now, because everyone in this world now can be told about God.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 A very good example. So, Nellie, what do you think of people who do horrible acts, but suffer from schizophrenia and genuinely do believe they are doing it for Jesus? They have accepted Jesus in their hearts, they only misinterpreted the meaning. Should they go to heaven?

(answering your question,now that I found it. Atleast I think this is the question you are refering to.)

Listen carefully. If you read in God's word, The Bible. You will know what's right,and what's wrong. Pure and simple. A lot of people can say "Jesus told me to " but that doesn't mean He did. You and I both know this.

Once again,Only God knows a persons heart.

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This thread is irrefutable proof that some children should never be allowed on the Internet. Dear lord, I wish IP addresses were publicly displayed so someone could smurf her connection.

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Originally posted by DigiNut This thread is irrefutable proof that some children should never be allowed on the Internet. Dear lord, I wish IP addresses were publicly displayed so someone could smurf her connection.

Ok, I've had about enough of your immaturity. I have every right to be here to debate,I'm just answering their question. As I've been told " Either put up or shut up ".

All I've seen you do in this topic is complain, This forum isn't for complaining. This is about debating,and that's exactly what we're doing.

I'm not a child, You can think that bull all you want. But, atleast I think with my brain rather than sit on it.

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You arn't debating Nellie

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Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Ok, I've had about enough of your immaturity. I have every right to be here to debate,I'm just answering their question. As I've been told " Either put up or shut up ". All I've seen you do in this topic is complain, This forum isn't for complaining. This is about debating,and that's exactly what we're doing. I'm not a child, You can think that bull all you want. But, atleast I think with my brain rather than sit on it.

Yes, and if I posted "fuck you" in response to every question that was posed to me, I'd be answering their questions too. The difference is, I actually have the critical thinking faculties required to answer the questions with at least a minimal degree of rationality and coherency.

Your posts are childish, emotionally charged, totally illogical and irrational. You sound like a 6 year old trying to explain why "my daddy is better than your daddy" (with the notable difference of using the word "God" instead of "daddy"). You answer every single question with the exact same garbage, and I find it unbelievable that people are actually still trying to argue rationally with you, because you have not presented a cogent argument in even ONE SINGLE POST. You don't debate or argue, you just contradict people and repeat the same platitudes over and over again.

I wouldn't try to win an argument with ad hominem - we're far beyond that, I'm merely in the state of wondering why everybody else hasn't given up yet. This debate goes nowhere - more and more great arguments presented by Occrider, MisterOpus, Renegade, Tito, arctic, a few by myself, and a few by others, and the same response from "Nessa" to all of them: "No,your wrong,God exists,it says so in the bible . "

Do the other people in this thread not realize that small children don't respond to logic?

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Originally posted by tathi You arn't debating Nellie

Yes, I am.
That and people are asking me questions,and I'm answering them.You have a problem with that? If you do,that's your problem not mine.
But, I'm sure those who are asking me the questions don't mind me answering.That's what matters.

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