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Originally posted by FunkyCrew what does country's population have to do with anything? wow that was so random lol you're not sending the entire country's population to compete!

bigger pool to chose from... but lol yeah thats pretty synchronous

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Originally posted by timmyboy bigger pool to chose from... but lol yeah thats pretty synchronous

meh I dunno about that
either way that's a poor excuse not to have well trained athletes winning left and right

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Originally posted by timmyboy bigger pool to chose from...

That was all I was trying to convey.

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Originally posted by She_Fitz I think it is pretty good.. it beats our total number of medals won in Athens Also, in comparison to population.. not so bad either. 141,377,752 people in Russia - 42 medals 33,390,141 people in Canada - 13 medals 301,139,947 people in the USA - 79 medals 1,321,851,888 people in China - 76 medals Just a thought...

Exactly! I always like to use the population aspect to put things into perspective haha

But I think 13 medals so far is pretty good for our atheletes, and I believe we're tied for 12 which is really good.

When looking at some of these other countries, we don't necessary have the same kind of funding for the atheletes that other countries get, and a lot of our atheletes have actual full time jobs which makes training that much harder.

I think we've done pretty well so far!

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew meh I dunno about that either way that's a poor excuse not to have well trained athletes winning left and right

well the real problem is that they either dont use drugs or dont have good ones

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Jesus Quintana: Let me tell you something, bandejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click."
The Dude: Jesus.
Jesus Quintana: You said it man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
Walter Sobchak: Eight year-olds, Dude.

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Originally posted by timmyboy well the real problem is that they either dont use drugs or dont have good ones

lol

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Originally posted by timmyboy well the real problem is that they either dont use drugs or dont have good ones

haha...there's also the financial incentive from the Government.

From what I've read, this is the first year where athletes receive financial compensation, and get $20,000 for winning a gold.

I was watching one of the Men's wrestling events or Judo (can't remember) and they said that one of the countries (Old School USSR country and ends in Stan, can't remember which) has a reward of $200,000US for winning a Gold medal.

Same with the Phillipines. They have a reward of $214,000 to the first Gold Medal winner....

There is a greater Benefit to spending all that time training to win $214,000 in the Phillipnes compared to $20,000US in Canada.

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Originally posted by exstasie There is a greater Benefit to spending all that time training to win $214,000 in the Phillipnes compared to $20,000US in Canada.

Hmm now I gotta find a Filipino wife, marry her to get citizenship. Practice shooting, or fencing something easy lol. All within 3-4 years to make that 214k worth it.

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Originally posted by MKpacha ... Horse jumping is 2 parts. The horse and the rider, together, they create a well oiled machine. They win the medal together... You are naieve to think that riding is not a sport. You try it, at that level, and get back to me. thanks.

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Originally posted by Orko Equestrian events should not be in the olympics.

MK, we did not state it was not a sport, and before you get super defensive and call us stupid or naive, how about looking at the merits of our arguments?

Again I will state my point, which you did not actually explain. The rider is not generating the power to get over the obstacle. Tennis: player swings. Biking: rider pedals. Marathon: person runs! Show jumping: horse jumps.

My point was, events in the Olympics should be comprised of activities where athletes generate the power to complete an objective. They can use tools, raquets, bikes, shoes, but the power for those item to work, comes from the person.

In equestrian events, the person does use a tool, but the power comes from the horse, not the rider. When you talk about training, it is the same with people. A horse would not jump, if not trained. Same thing with a person in the high jump. With out the training with a coach, the jumper would not know how to build muscle, angle their body and eat properly. Training is not the question. Work is. In high jump the jumper propels themselves over the beam. In equestrian events, the horse propels the rider over the beam. How can you argue that?

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Originally posted by MKpacha I really wish not to argue about this, as I could go on for days, and it is almost pointless as there is no one else that shows at a compettive enough level as I once have to understand where I am coming from.

Wow, I wish I could win all my arguments like this. 'You have not trained like me, there fore you have no say in the matter'.

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Originally posted by MKpacha Technically, a horse is not physically capable of such heights... why don't you stop arguing about something you have no clue about.

Did you really just say this?

^^

Please do some showjumping and then come back and tell me the riders are not athletes deserving to be in the Olympics.

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Are you fucking people actually blind or just dumb? Where did I say the rider was not an athlete? I am not saying it is not hard! I am saying the horse is generating the power to do the jumping.

Fuck I grew up around a horse farm, and my family raised horses for jumping and racing. I know what type of conditioning goes into this stuff, rider and horse.

READ THE DAMN MESSAGE AGAIN.