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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
Anyone care to explain why they found physical evidence of thermate at WTC 7?


there was no evidence of thermate found. unfortunately you seem to believe everything steven jones tells you. how dumb.

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
Or why there was molten steels for 2 months at the remains of a building that was 200 yrds from the building with the plane in it?


there wasn't any molten steel (another fallacy), and even if there were, having it "molten" for two months after the collapses is not an indication of thermite. which you would know if you knew how thermite worked, but alas.

grow up, child.


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quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
Of course there's evidence, why would I say something otherwise? Because I hate America and freedom? LOL

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...ideoID=26949287

NIST was a crippled investigation, I believe a former CIA director said we should go back and reinvestigate.

http://www.inteldaily.com/news/126/...2009-02-07.html
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btw i'm talking about wtc 7, you know the one that didn't have the plane in it but still exploded.


I never said you hate America or freedom, so let's not resort to throwing around straw mans. His evidence is...a tiny piece of iron, which he assumed comes from a thermite reaction. So how does he determine that iron comes from a thermite reaction, and not simply a component of the building itself. He doesn't. This "visual evidence" from the towers could be many other things than a thermite reaction. You know, a plane loaded with thousands of gallons of jet fuel hit the building, SURPRISE! His theory has more holes than swiss cheese.

So, how is a CIA guy advocating a new investigation any evidence whatsoever of a conspiracy. It isn't. I'm all for an independent investigation, but don't trump this as if it proves something.


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hi, i'm still talking about the building without the plane in it. and yes there was evidence of thermite.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/residues.html#incendiary_residues
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evi...urgy/index.html


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quote:
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hi, i'm still talking about the building without the plane in it. and yes there was evidence of thermite.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evi...urgy/index.html



Why would US news organizations not pick up on this? Why would international news organizations not pick up on this?

You know some of the biggest and most damaging stories against the US government have been picked up and released by major news organizations?

This is complete insanity that you would take some random group of people who have no experience in architecture, material sciences, physics, or anything related to how a building is built, maintained, or demolished over a group of people that DO have that experience.

WTC 7 collapsed due to poor design of its fire suppression system, massive structural damage to its south face and most likely the collapse of a critical supporting column that caused an immediate and severe re-distribution of its weight across the rest of the damaged and weakened building.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
hi, i'm still talking about the building without the plane in it. and yes there was evidence of thermite.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evi...ndiary_residues
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evi...urgy/index.html


LOL!

Posting anything from those frauds hardly helps your position! Your "evidence" has been debunked over, and over, and over again! Why do you keep coming back and telling lies?


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And how much international news do you watch? Do you really think that's something fox news would cover? REALLY? The government was already caught paying retired generals to cheerlead for the iraq war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLgC4cTKcs


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It hasn't been debunked, unless you can prove so the argument ends here right now.
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This is complete insanity that you would take some random group of people who have no experience in architecture, material sciences, physics, or anything related to how a building is built, maintained, or demolished over a group of people that DO have that experience.

False.


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quote:
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And how much international news do you watch? Do you really think that's something fox news would cover? REALLY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLgC4cTKcs


Thats not an example, and I never mentioned Fox News.

How is a CNN interview of a Pakistani General any sort of credible source of information?

Pakistand is knee-deep in shit due to al-Queda and have always been known to shift blame away from themselves. God forbid they are now harboring the people that were involved in planning this attack!

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It hasn't been debunked, unless you can prove so the argument ends here right now.


this shit was dealt with more than 2 years ago. go find the information yourself you fucking lazy, ignorant moron.


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quote:
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It hasn't been debunked, unless you can prove so the argument ends here right now.


If you can't tell me why exactly this attack was carried out by the United States then this discussion ends right here, right now.

And why does this conspiracy have to be so fucking complicated? Thermite, planted explosives, missiles on planes?

Why cant you take it that buildings collapse when really bad shit happens to them?

Cant the conspiracy be "US trained suicide attackers hi-jacked plane"???

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Why was Pearl Harbor allowed to be bombed even when the japanese code was cracked long before?

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This is complete insanity that you would take some random group of people who have no experience in architecture, material sciences, physics, or anything related to how a building is built, maintained, or demolished over a group of people that DO have that experience.

this is completely false.

if you aren't willing to talk facts, this is pointless. a complete waste of time. it's like trying to argue jesus exists because you say he speaks to you and "God is good".


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Why was Pearl Harbor allowed to be bombed even when the japanese code was cracked long before?


ohhhhhh. i see. you're really one of those. i'd pity you if you weren't so willfully ignorant and dishonest


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