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Originally posted by culorut A ski lift is built in the same manner as a skyscraper? Comparing apples to oranges again. Fail. Oddly enough you compare a ski lift to WTC7 but when another 50 story building just like WTC7 burns for days and does not crumble down to the ground the critics suddenly become silenced. This is a what a real fire looks like,

I write it in technical language, you can't comprehend what im saying.... I dumb it down for you and give you a real world example (one that you wont try and blame on the CIA), and yet you still fail to get the point...... its like arguing with a kid who has down syndrome..... i keep talking, and all you want is your baseball

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

Furthermore,

To say a weld joint in a ski lift failing due to frost heave is similar to the effects of thermal expansion on a structural steel joint, wouldn't be totally out of line, some differences, but the fundamentals remain the same.

Now in your case, comparing two infinitely more complex systems (might i add that you have zero formal training in structural analysis, material sciences, or common sense for that matter)and drawing any conclusions from that would be the same as doing a clinical drug study on one person and applying the findings the whole population.... Ie: Man A has prostate cancer, therefore the entire world will have prostate cancer, no matter if you are a man or a woman......

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Now in your case, comparing two infinitely more complex systems

1. A freezing joint on a ski lift compared with a 50 story building on fire.

2. A 50 story building on fire compared to a 50 story building with raging fires.

I going to have to go with option 2 no matter how smart you think and say you are.

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Originally posted by Krypton He did. But in Larry Silverstein's world, insurance policies determined which buildings fell..

The 9/11 commission completely left WTC7 out of their report. The only building to ever collapse at practically free fall speed due to office fires in history. Countless witnesses present at ground zero heard the explosions going off, Larry Silverstein the lease holder of the building said on air "we decided to pull it" (WTC7) but you want to compare a freezing joint on a ski lift to a 47 story building?

I believe you do not comprehend to well even if you are an engineer.



The Third Tower - World Trade Building 7 part 1






The Third Tower - World Trade Building 7 part 2

Barry Jenning - Account of WTC 7 Explosions





No frozen ski lift joints or thermal expansion to see here....move on.

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Originally posted by culorut fixed.

Nothing about insurance policies. Do you even watch your own videos...

Got any more youtube videos you can pull out of your ass to try to prove absolutely nothing?

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Originally posted by culorut 1. A freezing joint on a ski lift compared with a 50 story building on fire. 2. A 50 story building on fire compared to a 50 story building with raging fires. I going to have to go with option 2 no matter how smart you think and say you are.

comparing the failure of a weld joint between two structural steel components due to thermal expansion vs a joint failure in a structural steel structure due to heat expansion / yield strenght loss due to excessive heat is very comparable...

at no point did i say i was comparing a ski lift to a 50 story building... pull your head out of your ass....


and as usual.... you fall back to youtube to make up for your lack of understanding.....


you truthers would not be able to survive without the skillz of of copypasta and trite you post from youtube......


grow up

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by culorut The 9/11 commission completely left WTC7 out of their report.

i love how you say this as if its relevant to anything. WTC7 got its own report, fuckhead.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201A.pdf

just another piece of work you wont read obviously, and have virtually no chance of understanding anyway.

oh, and please keep arguing structural engineering with colonel, it keeps us all vastly amused!

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Originally posted by Krypton Nothing about insurance policies. Do you even watch your own videos...

I posted that video to show that Larry Silverstein slipped up, he went on air and said "we decided to pull it". (world trade building 7)

As for the insurance policy,


Apr 26, 2001 – The Port Authority, authorized by Lewis M. Eisenberg, (left Goldman Sachs after affair) decided to privatize the WTC, and lease it to Silverstein Properties. (In 1995, Pataki ran for Governor promising he would help privatize the WTC).

Jul 24, 2001 – Six weeks before 911, Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, Inc. (retail part) took control of a 99 year, $3.2 billion lease of the WTC.

Silverstein was the 2nd place bidder. Vornado Realty was the 1st place bidder. He withdrew when they wouldn’t agree to a shorter lease period. This deal was the richest real estate deal in NYC history, and yet a bargain for Silverstein.

Three Interesting Issues:

1)The buildings were immediately insured for $3.5 billion, and covered for “terrorist attacks”.

2)“Explicitly included in the agreement was that Silverstein and Westfield were given the right to rebuild the structures if they were destroyed.
http://www.realestatejournal.com/re...3-starkman.html

3)After 911, he sued for $7.2 (double the original amount he insured the buildings for) claiming two separate incidents. In the end, he was paid approximately $4.5 billion, as the judge agreed, in the end, that it was two separate occurrences.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...n&printable=yes

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i love how you say this as if its relevant to anything. WTC7 got its own report, fuckhead. http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201A.pdf just another piece of work you wont read obviously, and have virtually no chance of understanding anyway. oh, and please keep arguing structural engineering with colonel, it keeps us all vastly amused!

Yes it did and NIST laid the blame on thermal expansion. Thanks went over it and the 7 year report in full of shit. Next.