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Originally posted by chimera66 just read an interesting editorial by gorbachev in the ny times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/o...gin&oref=slogin the economist from this week is a decent read too

i miss him as president. very good article.

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Originally posted by denys envy i miss him as president. very good article.

i take it you weren't there when he was president

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

Aye, the soviet times were very bad (yet still awesome) times

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Originally posted by chimera66 i take it you weren't there when he was president

no, i was there while he was president.

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Originally posted by denys envy no, i was there while he was president.

as a child because a number of older people in russia really don't like him...plus the whole glasnost and perestroika thing kind of took a life of its own and spirilled out of control. it wasn't all gorby

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

Gorby overall was a better president than the things that Yeltsin and Putin have done. Yeltsin spent all the money while Putin hordes it all, controls/owns the media, nationalized the energy industry, etc.

So in the grand scheme of things, I would prefer Gorby over Putin/His puppet Medvedev.

Oh and MOST older folks preferred communism because they had no worries about living. Now they have to work till they die because they are poor as fuck.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

don't know if this was posted before

Yeah it was.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Yeah it was.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Gorby overall was a better president than the things that Yeltsin and Putin have done. Yeltsin spent all the money while Putin hordes it all, controls/owns the media, nationalized the energy industry, etc. So in the grand scheme of things, I would prefer Gorby over Putin/His puppet Medvedev. Oh and MOST older folks preferred communism because they had no worries about living. Now they have to work till they die because they are poor as fuck.

if i had to wait in line at the post office for my crappy pension i would be pissed too...i don't know actually being in russia for a small amount of time is interesting. you'll be surprised at how people think about the "glory days." three years ago i was in moscow right before the big may day celebration and "celebrated" in st petersburgh. i felt like it was surrounded by communists...

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by chimera66 as a child because a number of older people in russia really don't like him...plus the whole glasnost and perestroika thing kind of took a life of its own and spirilled out of control. it wasn't all gorby

as a child of course. i guess no one i was around hated on him, but everyone has his critics.

my only complain is that he could've made the transition a bit easier by not appointing an alcoholic to lead afterwards. talk about perpetuating stereotypes.