All those posts up there can be summed up in one phrase...



















BPM Counters are for losers!





that's cheating AND degrading


I can do it in 20 secs

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Yeah i agree but not in such large font.

My djm 300 only shows whole beats so it can give you an idea but good fucking luck just using it alone to beat match. Basically everything has been said by everyone above.

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Meh

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Originally posted by webbie Personally I would be dissapointed if I went to see someone like Armin, Digweed, Sasha or someone else that is big and see that they used a BPM counter, I would leave the party.

Leave a party? Bullshit...

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like most of em said...just tough it out for the first couple months...one day it will just click...really fuckin wEird how it happens IMO

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Beat counters are only down to 1/10th of a beat - so even if they were exact (which they arent), you still couldnt get the beats together perfectly just using both bpms. A counter could help you get in the general pitch area quickly - then its quite easy to do fine adjustments with your ears and get them exactly together.]

That said, i dont and wouldnt use them - though it would certainly give you more time to get the beats together perfectly.....

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Originally posted by corsten_addict Being a breaks lover, it's quite useless to have the beat counter anyway. They aren't smart enough to detect the beginning and end of a 4/4 beat if you don't have a constant bassdrum-snare-bassdrum-snare beat scheme. It'll throw you way off if you have a bassdrum-bassdrum-snare-bassdrum-bassdrum-bassdrum-snare scheme.

That is probably why I found the beatkeeper on my mixer so worthless, cuz I play breaks. I don't ever remember trying to use it as a crutch ever like some have said; I can't even think it's possible. When it comes to mixing two tunes together your ears are the most trustworthy tool of all (said for the thousandth time in this thread).

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i totally disagree with beat counters.... and i totally disagree with cd mixing too ..... afterall the club culture gave birth to what we have now, thru turntablism. i have strong views on CD mixing and BPM counters, cos it ruins the whole point of how well you can mix and how good you are as a DJ

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I can't stand BPM counters. If anything, they screw up my mixing because they distract me. I feel like putting some masking tape in my record bag so any place I go I can temporarily cover them up.