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Originally posted by nic01445 well, the goal of this thread was NOT to insult those who are religious, but eh, wuddya gonna do? Just sayin. Not my intent. LOL we really should start that [TA] Atheist Alliance. Who's gonna make the sig?

I have to see this.

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Originally posted by nic01445 Q was a pimp

Was this the dude who owned the bar and had giant ears>? Yes he was a pimp. Since people lived to be a million years old in the future because lasers and glowy sticks fix everyone, what was his drinking age?

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I saw a wedding show where these two trekkie people got married at the star trek bar in las vegas. It was so fucking funny; Not to mention sad.

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i am an atheist as well. religion is just an excuse some people make up for things they can't explain... a waste of time, really

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Originally posted by Abject Silver wow, well, then in that case you might as well stop believing in science. you can't touch a quantum or a quark, man. and quantum physics sure as hell don't make sense. in any case, the stuff you mentioned above are faults of *people*. don't make the dumb-assed mistake that's made by so many out there - religion is man-made. *god*, whatever name you choose to call him, in whatever possibility of his existence, is not. don't confuse the two.

Your right.. i made the mistake of asuming too much... its funny how history never repeats itself.. only human folly does...

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im an atheist (along with half of australia).. religions are for people with weak minds that cant accept that we are completely useless and whose lives have no value what so ever in the scheme of things. a very sad amd depressing concept for most (even for atheists) but enlightening for a lucky few (not saying im one).

Heh, I'd be one of those people who find the concept of us being useless in the grand scheme of things, or the complete lack of such a scheme, enlightening. On one side, it means we are completely on our own without anyone to turn to, but on the other side, it's what makes us free instead of being puppets of some supreme being. It also makes all of our civilizational achievements that more valuable, because we made them on our own without anyone to help us. We are free to design our own scheme of things which suits us, or in other words, we can be our own gods.

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The only way you can be certain something does not exist is if it has contradictory properties, such as a square circle. So, unless you can show what contradictory properties all gods and goddesses have, atheism is as irrational a position as traditional theism.

A being capable of everything is contradictory. To use a simple exampe, it can't make a rock it can't lift.

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here we have an intelligent discussion of religion and star trek. how those two are connected, i have no clue, but please, carry on

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I don't believe God exists. God was never anything more than an icon to the people that want to believe that an icon has power.
Those who believe in the power of God are manipulated by the image that is a symbol for God. [Those that are not believe that the system is weightless, that we are free-willed and noncomformist].
God is just a label. God is a product of media. People who believe in God need to believe that something gives them security, comfort, whatever.... so they rely on that mainstream logo.

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you need to read posts more carefully. first of all, are you saying that just because *i* don't understand atheism?

When did i point the finger at you?

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Untrue. Just because don't understand atheism, and give it a pseudo-definition doesn't mean that their definition is right. Atheist - One who does not believe in any god or gods. Whether this is what the mass accepts or not, it is still true.

I'm missing "one" after "because", and "don't" should be "doesn't". I really should start proofing these before I post. I'm turning into Michiline. :\

Sorry about the mix-up.

it's simple really, people initally came up with the idea of god(s) to explain the unexplainable... then it kept being taken further and people came up with religions, and look where that has led the world...

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Originally posted by whiskers here we have an intelligent discussion of religion and star trek. how those two are connected, i have no clue, but please, carry on

both were invented by humans and both have nothing to do with the physical world we live in.

in my perception, the bible is but a poorly written pseudo-science-fiction book.

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Originally posted by brunette I don't believe God exists. God was never anything more than an icon to the people that want to believe that an icon has power. Those who believe in the power of God are manipulated by the image that is a symbol for God. [Those that are not believe that the system is weightless, that we are free-willed and noncomformist]. God is just a label. God is a product of media. People who believe in God need to believe that something gives them security, comfort, whatever.... so they rely on that mainstream logo.

you are talking as if thats a fact and not an opinion...and if indeed those are facts then please do give proof..but dont come here talking this and that without any proofs..if it is just an opinion then u r entitled to it..if you dont believe in god because u cant see him or touch him...well when was the last time u saw the atom or when was the last time u saw love..i think people dont believe in religion because they dont like to live under the laws of religion or would rather not feel bad for doing a sin...Atheisim is the easy way out..but thats just my opinion