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Originally posted by itikia It is clear that decriminalizing pot possesion will not only move us forward but it will also decrease drug use. Better eductaion is needed to curb drug use, NOT restrictions. Take Europe as an example, they are leagues ahead of us when it comes to drug policies.

Another interesting effect of drug legalization is the amount of income it reduces from organized crime. Think of what would happen to organizations like hell's angels, street gangs or mafia organizations in the United States.

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Originally posted by jamglide we do need laws to keep us in check. I dont want kids drinking & smoking, i think you have to know the out come of these choices and when your 13 smoking is "cool" when your 21 you also understand how unhealthy of a choice it is. But of course when you hit 19 or so I fully agree if you still want to smoke feel free, just take it out side so I dont die with ya. p.s smoke hydro not players

we need laws indeed...wanna hear something??

number of smokers in canada ive noticed is at least 40% if not more

number of smokers back from where i came in the middle east is only about 20% or less

back there i was the only one in my whole group who smoked...and there is no law to provide id and be of legal age to buy cigarettes...same with alcohol

u say cigarettes are to be smoked and bought by adults ???hmm kid says "i want to be an adult..i want to rebel..i dont care wat the law says..it will be cool if i smoke" goes and starts smoking, befor eu know it, he/she is a chainsmoker

back in the UAE, anyone could by cigarettes, yet if u were to someone a cigarette, theyd say, no thanks...

basic psychology....the more u pull something away from someone, the more they want it..

try this out with a baby who is too innocent to refrain

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee we need laws indeed...wanna hear something?? number of smokers in canada ive noticed is at least 40% if not more number of smokers back from where i came in the middle east is only about 20% or less back there i was the only one in my whole group who smoked...and there is no law to provide id and be of legal age to buy cigarettes...same with alcohol u say cigarettes are to be smoked and bought by adults ???hmm kid says "i want to be an adult..i want to rebel..i dont care wat the law says..it will be cool if i smoke" goes and starts smoking, befor eu know it, he/she is a chainsmoker back in the UAE, anyone could by cigarettes, yet if u were to someone a cigarette, theyd say, no thanks... basic psychology....the more u pull something away from someone, the more they want it.. try this out with a baby who is too innocent to refrain

good point.
but is it "cool" to smoke in the middle east?
I doubt it.
Lets just give the kids smokes and hey!, i'll let em take my car keys and go run down some people! after all the want to be adults right?
even if they cant drive..............

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Originally posted by jamglide good point. but is it "cool" to smoke in the middle east? I doubt it. Lets just give the kids smokes and hey!, i'll let em take my car keys and go run down some people! after all the want to be adults right? even if they cant drive..............

listen..in the middle east, nbody cares about whats "cool" and whats not...

people have more freedom of thought over there...oh and cigarette companies openly advertize there...here ur not allowed to advertize cigarettes.... inspite of all teh adverrtizing and no age restriction, people still dont go for it....back to my point about rebel ideas

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee people have more freedom of thought over there

Everyone, everywhere has freedom of thought, but without freedom to act upon your thought, it is worthless.

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Originally posted by discojoe Society says pot makes you 'go dumber' because you do 'go dumber'.

There is no clinical evidence whatsoever that one "goes dumber." There were studies conducted with heavy pot smokers (and by "heavy" it is meant those who smoke 3-4 joints per day, every single day, for at least a year). Those pot smokers exhibited a slight deficiency in certain mental tests, most likely reflex and memory tests. However, when they laid off the weed, they returned to normal levels within a certain timeframe. I don't know if it was weeks or months, but it happened.

FACT: marijuana is very safe, unless you figure to smoke several sessions every day, which is quite rare and let me tell you, pretty hard to do (i.e. you'd get sick of the stuff after a while). There has never been a death from overdose due to marijuana (if i am wrong please correct me). Contrast this with lung cancer and the myriad ways of dying from smoking cigarettes. And let's not get into alcohol shall we?

Basically what I want to emphasize is that a lot of the drug stereotypes, if not most, within our society are due to ignorance. A lot of this ignorance comes from government anti-drug propaganda.

I don't want to say drugs are "good" but I also do not want to say drugs are "bad" because they are NEITHER. It is your choice to take drugs. It is your choice to allow your life to be ruined by the heavy ones. It doesn't mean that they were "bad" - it just means that you were stupid. If you are responsible in your drug use and are intelligent about the possible side effects then anyone saying you are "bad" is just ignorant.

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Another interesting effect of drug legalization is the amount of income it reduces from organized crime. Think of what would happen to organizations like hell's angels, street gangs or mafia organizations in the United States.

Very good point! This is the only "moral" sticky-issue with drugs, I would say. In this sense, drugs are "bad" because they support organized crime.

But then again, most other things carry negative consequences. Driving your car wastes a lot of gas that pollutes the atmosphere. Maybe that diamond you bought for your fiancee or wife or whoever last week came from Africa and has a hefty blood price behind it. That juicy steak you had last night was the end result of a helpless animal getting slaughtered and chopped up into many pieces. Etc.

So it depends on what you want to think is good or bad. But it is your choice. No one should be able to say what is "good" for you or "bad" for you, arbitrarily.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee listen..in the middle east, nbody cares about whats "cool" and whats not... people have more freedom of thought over there...oh and cigarette companies openly advertize there...here ur not allowed to advertize cigarettes.... inspite of all teh adverrtizing and no age restriction, people still dont go for it....back to my point about rebel ideas

it may not be open advertising but who are the sponsers for the indy races? cigarette companys. who brings in all the big name djs lately?
why the gold clubs series...and what are they? yep a cigarette company
oh ya my folks went to a opera last summer, who put on the event? a cigarette company. fuck man,my brother and I used to *smoke* popeye cigarettes (candy sticks) and we never worked our way up the real thing. I hate to use this point because it makes me look racist but
and i know i have never been to the middle east but lots of the
people over their are brain washed with religon, and have such hate for people of other faiths/colours. so how can they be more open minded than the people of CANADA???? please correct me if im wrong?
i mean no harm..........
-j.

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Originally posted by jamglide it may not be open advertising but who are the sponsers for the indy races? cigarette companys. who brings in all the big name djs lately? why the gold clubs series...and what are they? yep a cigarette company oh ya my folks went to a opera last summer, who put on the event? a cigarette company. fuck man,my brother and I used to *smoke* popeye cigarettes (candy sticks) and we never worked our way up the real thing. I hate to use this point because it makes me look racist but and i know i have never been to the middle east but lots of the people over their are brain washed with religon, and have such hate for people of other faiths/colours. so how can they be more open minded than the people of CANADA???? please correct me if im wrong? i mean no harm.......... -j.

first off...FUCK U....no offence..but FUCK U..u believe everything u see on cnn...im sure u dont know that there are churches all over the middle east (including iraq)...there is NO suppression of religion there... i remember open debates about several topics in the open media and nobody did anythign tto them..its all a myth that people are suppressed and its all slave labour there...

just to clear some things up, im not Arab.

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^^^ part of the Indian diaspora??

Way to counter a generalization with a generalization.

Remember, open expressions of Christianity are forbidden in Saudi.

All generalizations are false.

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