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Originally posted by politcs_of_danc AMEN im soo tired and sick of all these motherf**ckers bitching about the mixing, programming blah blah....dude i swear if you cant do it yourself , dont say shit PERIOD!!!!!!!!!

How about this...

If I can find all of the tracks on MP3, I'll mix them in the order that they should have been in the first place, all with flawless mixing and end up producing a quality CD set. Then I'll post it here.

Don't get me wrong. Tiesto has always been and always will be my favorite DJ. BUT, this double CD has some major flaws in it. The order, the list, the mixing all are flawed. The mix between Track 5 and 6 on CD 2 is so horrendous, I almost spilled coffee on myself while driving to work today. THAT's how bad some of the mixing is on this double CD. Period.

Why the hell would you go to see a dj based on his technical beat matching skills??

what about the songs he plays?

christ..

He may not be the best technical mixer and i have yet to hear the new cd..

But when it comes to flow and reading the crowd and giving such a energetic vibe NO ONE touches tiesto, his selections are flawless and proves it time and time again

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Originally posted by dartrance But when it comes to flow and reading the crowd and giving such a energetic vibe NO ONE touches tiesto, his selections are flawless and proves it time and time again

AMEN

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Originally posted by dartrance Why the hell would you go to see a dj based on his technical beat matching skills?? what about the songs he plays? christ.. He may not be the best technical mixer and i have yet to hear the new cd.. But when it comes to flow and reading the crowd and giving such a energetic vibe NO ONE touches tiesto, his selections are flawless and proves it time and time again

Why the hell would you go to see a DJ just for the songe he plays? I can do that at home can't I?

I don't see how a DJ can have flow without mixing well. I mean the whole point of mixing is to have songs flow into eachother. When he was here last he killed energy with his mixing. He'd throw in a crowd pleaser and do a horrendous mix out of it. Just a huge bass drop. He wasn't reading the crowd either. He was talking to people in the DJ booth.

I don't see these DJs exclusively for the mixing. I enjoy a well layed out set that builds energy, but when the mixing's as bad as it was the last time I saw him, well, no amount of great track selection can rescue the set.

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Regardless of Tiesto's beatmatching abilities or his track selection, I enjoy Tiesto's track placing, diverse mixing and flow (even if it's harsh sometimes) more than the skills of any other DJ out there. Call me stupid, call me crazy, but this is just my taste and there's nothing you can do about it . I have my reasons, and they are pretty concrete. No other jockey can energize and move me as much.

And man, let me tell you something. Last week I went to Qontact in Amsterdam and saw PVD, Ferry, Armin, Marco V, Scott Bond, Judge Jules, and Gielen. They were all awesome and technically had their beats down (well, most of them). However, for the exception of PVD, I really believe that none of them were able to take the music to another level because they all were too predictable and spun a lot of fluff, ultimately boring. I've never been bored at a Tiesto set ever, he might have his flaws, but he never loses that special touch of "magik" that make his sets so memorable. You say there was no energy at the Roxy in October, yet some girl next to me had an orgasm in the climax of the set. So yeah, the mix from 643 was kind of awkward, but the string of continuity (flow) was never broken till the end with Gatex.

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How about this... If I can find all of the tracks on MP3, I'll mix them in the order that they should have been in the first place, all with flawless mixing and end up producing a quality CD set. Then I'll post it here.

You're missing the point there man. There's no such thing as a "right" order. The dj is the artist, let him mix the tracks in whatever order he feels like it. None of the tracks are randomly placed, they all of the transitions have a Tiesto rationale behind them. You might not like them, but that doesn't make them wrong as there is no such thing. Go ahead and mix all of those tracks again and we'll be the judge of which mix gives out the best vibes.

Am I the only person that is a bit let down by this CD? I feel the track selection on this CD compared to other kinda blows. Please dont get me wrong, there are a few very nice tracks but alot of filler. I love you Tiesto BUT it still means you have to make good CD's. Better luck next time!

lol It's funny how some people say there are too many anthems or big tunes in this CD and others complain that there are too many fillers. Others say that the only good thing about this CD is the track selection and others say that the track selection is what's wrong with it. There's no consensus at all, I guess that's a good thing .

Like I said, I'm a tiesto fan. Again, he is my favorite DJ and I agree that he always has a great showing when I go see him live. But it doesn't take away from the fact that the majority of threads I've read in 4 message boards show that many ppl are displeased with the lack of continuity, track selection and mixing in his latest CD. I'm a fan but I'm also objective.

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Originally posted by djinnom How about this... If I can find all of the tracks on MP3, I'll mix them in the order that they should have been in the first place, all with flawless mixing and end up producing a quality CD set. Then I'll post it here. Don't get me wrong. Tiesto has always been and always will be my favorite DJ. BUT, this double CD has some major flaws in it. The order, the list, the mixing all are flawed. The mix between Track 5 and 6 on CD 2 is so horrendous, I almost spilled coffee on myself while driving to work today. THAT's how bad some of the mixing is on this double CD. Period.

ok how about this.....since your soo confident, BE MY GUEST...POST IT HERE ASAP...I JUST WANNA HEAR ALL THIS TALK....enough talking i want to see actions NOW!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!

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i still haven't heard all the tracks yet, but what i have heard i liked, i am a tiesto fan so hopefully when i get to hear the rest i won't be disappointed ..i have to admit i'm a little nervous with all the negative feedback on this album...

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Originally posted by politcs_of_danc ok how about this.....since your soo confident, BE MY GUEST...POST IT HERE ASAP...I JUST WANNA HEAR ALL THIS TALK....enough talking i want to see actions NOW!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!

Like I said, once I find all the mp3s, i shall. Or maybe I'll replace the garbage tracks with non-filler?

My point about this, is that I feel it is mediocre, for one reason

Look at the early magiks or ISOS 1 & 2 (3 was poor imo), they are immaculately selected and mixed, and you really get a great feeling from them, this just doesn't do that to me, which is why i'm bashing it, not cos i hate tiesto or anything, cos I think he's done better, and maybe he has set himself a standard too high to match now, but I think he has it in him to do that, and that's what frustrates me with Tijs