haven't seen it as yet...but am looking forward to seeing it VERY SOON!

Matt, it's more focused on form, construct, evolution, determinism, order/disorder.

and i thought the bit with the architect was cool, nice twist indeed.

and it's not that hard to understand, just pay attention to what he says.... I mean really people..

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Originally posted by Trancey Ash Was Reloaded just as much based around Christianity and Religion as much as the first one?

Hmmm not necessarily christianity, but definately a sense of religion. Many of the people of Zion didn't believe in the Matrix (eg the ship's operator's g/f). They thought the likes of Morpheus (who, back in Zion, was portrayed as a religious leader for those who did believe) were crazy when they talked about the prophecy and ending the war via alternative means.


Got the gist of most of what the architect was on about, but i was soo damn stoned.....it was a bit of a challenge. Will definately go see it again real soon

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Originally posted by FlameBoy hah yeah that was a mad bit! anyone know the song they were playing

Fair bit of Juno Reactor on the s'track? Check it out?

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I'd have to say I agree with 90% of what Hybrid Junkie has posted, spot on mate, spot on. Just to reiterate some of those great points:

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Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie: "if you were impressed by the dance scene and not by the movie then i really do pity you"

- I agree, this shows that he couldn't comprehend the actual movie (the plot)

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Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie: "And you need to look at the big picture, matrix 1 was an introduction, matrix 2 gives you the low down on what the entire matrix really is and how it operates (internally), and what the survivors are like (their society blah blah), and matrix 3 will be the conclusion/resolution."

- Agreed again, who says there is a specific mould by which sequels and trilogies should be made? I like the way the story is unfolding, I really enjoyed the second movie and having seen the 2nd, looking back at the first, I think it was a very suitable introduction, it was a spot on production in that sense.

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Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie: "Not a hardcore matrix fan, but I like to enjoy things, and go in with an open mind, I didn't expect a life changing experience, and I didn't get it, but was pleasantly suprised with a lot of the movie."

- Definitely need an open mind for this imo, if you go into the cinema as a sceptic and don't just let the story tell itself then you aren't going to appreciate the movie.

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Originally posted by Master Yoda: "So was all that talk by the 'architect', I mean wtf? did anyone get all of it?"

- Yes.

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Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie: "i thought the bit with the architect was cool, nice twist indeed. and it's not that hard to understand, just pay attention to what he says.... I mean really people.."

- Agreed.

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Originally posted by Master Yoda: "What was the reason behind the big dancing scene?? To make the sex scene not as bold? For a movie like the matrix, both are unnecessary and pretty much useless."

- They mightn't be the most important parts of the movie but they were put in there for reasons. The huge party shows you that the people of Zion are still human and that they stick together, they're social, and it's quite a contrast to the machines who's only purpose seems to be wiping out the people. It's also to show you that they are determined as a people, it's the only part where you really see the population of Zion together. The love scene I think it neccessary to stress the feelings between Neo and Trinity, which is a major point in Neo's choice later in the plot, and it's an example of how their relationship has changed since the first matrix film. Like I said, of course they are not the most important parts of the movie, but they are part of the story! It's like saying a DJ is shit cos he played 2 or 3 tracks that don't make you cry with emotion... it's all part of the flow of the plot.

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Originally posted by Master Yoda: "End was... well it wasn't really an ending"

- I completely disagree. The ending was HUGE in terms of the plot. Throughout the movie you are left wondering if the prophecy is a load of shit... and I don't know about everyone else but towards the end of the movie it seemed likely that it was... then suddenly there's a giant revelation in all the subsequent theories of Neo's role in the prophecy, and it's the perfect way to end the episode that is to be concluded with a sequel imo.


Hope I haven't offended anyone. Our reviews of this movie are mostly subjective so I'm not trying to force anything down anyone's throat.

In conclusion.. I thoroughly enjoyed The Matrix Reloaded. As I've said to many, it lived up to all the hype, even though I went into the cinema with an open mind and processed what was thrown at me. The special effects and fighting scenes almost perfectly complimented the rest of the film (plot, characters, actors..) although I felt if anything, they were a little too drawn out. I'll definitely be seeing it a 2nd time, perhaps even a 3rd at the cinemas, as I'm sure I'll pick up things that I didn't have time to get my mind around the first time I saw it. One of the best movies I have ever seen.

note: free goat semen to whoever read all of that

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i'd have to agree with pretty much everything that Rememberence_ has said

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ I'd have to say I agree with 90% of what Hybrid Junkie has posted, spot on mate, spot on. Just to reiterate some of those great points: - I agree, this shows that he couldn't comprehend the actual movie (the plot) - Agreed again, who says there is a specific mould by which sequels and trilogies should be made? I like the way the story is unfolding, I really enjoyed the second movie and having seen the 2nd, looking back at the first, I think it was a very suitable introduction, it was a spot on production in that sense. - Definitely need an open mind for this imo, if you go into the cinema as a sceptic and don't just let the story tell itself then you aren't going to appreciate the movie. - Yes. - Agreed. - They mightn't be the most important parts of the movie but they were put in there for reasons. The huge party shows you that the people of Zion are still human and that they stick together, they're social, and it's quite a contrast to the machines who's only purpose seems to be wiping out the people. It's also to show you that they are determined as a people, it's the only part where you really see the population of Zion together. The love scene I think it neccessary to stress the feelings between Neo and Trinity, which is a major point in Neo's choice later in the plot, and it's an example of how their relationship has changed since the first matrix film. Like I said, of course they are not the most important parts of the movie, but they are part of the story! It's like saying a DJ is shit cos he played 2 or 3 tracks that don't make you cry with emotion... it's all part of the flow of the plot. - I completely disagree. The ending was HUGE in terms of the plot. Throughout the movie you are left wondering if the prophecy is a load of shit... and I don't know about everyone else but towards the end of the movie it seemed likely that it was... then suddenly there's a giant revelation in all the subsequent theories of Neo's role in the prophecy, and it's the perfect way to end the episode that is to be concluded with a sequel imo. Hope I haven't offended anyone. Our reviews of this movie are mostly subjective so I'm not trying to force anything down anyone's throat. In conclusion.. I thoroughly enjoyed The Matrix Reloaded. As I've said to many, it lived up to all the hype, even though I went into the cinema with an open mind and processed what was thrown at me. The special effects and fighting scenes almost perfectly complimented the rest of the film (plot, characters, actors..) although I felt if anything, they were a little too drawn out. I'll definitely be seeing it a 2nd time, perhaps even a 3rd at the cinemas, as I'm sure I'll pick up things that I didn't have time to get my mind around the first time I saw it. One of the best movies I have ever seen.

-Agreed

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note: free goat semen to whoever read all of that

/me gets a nice big glass handy

I saw it on Sunday night and personally loved it, great movie ! however it doen't compete with the first one

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What can i say... unfortunately i too am one of those that truly loved the matrix, the original one of course.. but this is just another Mummy 2 repeats... shame shame... Wachowsky Bros... what happened

You are fucking geniouses for christ sakes!!!

*sigh

Only two mad things about Matrix:Reloaded...

1 - Freeway chase... but was too damm long...

2 - Superman thing... FUCKING AWESUM.. especially when he takes off... OMG!!! madness...

BAD THINGS!!!

1 - rave scene??? plz... wats the deal...

2 - too much of a good thing = bullet time... they raped the shit outta of it...

3 - when Neo is fighting all those Agent Smith's at once.. the CGi was eye damaging, but i think the CGi was bad in most scenes... EEEKKK

Anyways.. i think thats enough...

A rating you ask? well i give it a 6/10... it wasn't THAT bad... but its not worth seeing it again.. sorry... /me shrugz...

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Just saw it today... My opinion:

Good development of the WHOLE story, developing/evolving characters/versions. I think it gives more insight into the whole 'Matrix' program. The religion-ism is more obvious and more concentrated on. I'd sy the fight sequences are just a little too long. I don't think it was as good as the first, but i don't think it was any worse either. I will definitely watch it again.