hmmm is it a coincidence that every radio station tarzan dan works at scraps their format?

anyways, Z is trying to get a license to start a radio station in Edmonton with the same format. So Edmontoners, get ready for some bon jovi with your ja rule

Interesting

http://webcast.newswire.ca/archive/rogers/JackFM.wma

Listen to seconds 27-30 - its the main beat from Armin's "Blue Fear"

...surprised I'm the only one who noticed that

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Sounds like dumb marketing ploy to me. WTF is Jack? they claim its some new fancy special music formatt. To me it sounds like the same old bs in a different package. When the hell is somebody gonna realize that the electronic music scene in Toronto IS economically viable and bring us a hip new cutting edge station that plays only the goood shit?

you know what though, it is slowly catching on. Look how economically viable electronic music is in EUROPE. Its reached monstourous proportions over there. Eventually it will grow once its more accepted and more prevelant here in North America. Remember electronic music hasn't been around for a while compared to other kinds of music, and unfortunatly it doesnt beat with the pulse of a community, such as say rap or hip hop does. Rap is prevelant and popular becuase it "use to" tell the stories of how it was in the ghetto and stuff. OFcourse now its just rediculous but it did once strike a cord with a whole community. And rock and punk each in there rebellious nature capitalized on the mood of the people during times of unrest. Think about it, during the 80's there was the cold war, and a dawn of Star Wars type weapons being thought up, an extremely conservative government (Reagen), along with 80's pop being released. There was a void that needed to be filled and hence why Punk rose up. Same goes with grundge during the earlyl 90's. And now think about it.. grundge became extremely popular for 5 years and then died out pretty much completely. Now in this time of all kinds of music existing, there is no void to fill, so electronic music is going to be slow to grow, and we'll have lots of people who like poop, err i mean pop, and say electronic, or rock and something else.. I'd rather have a genre of music which has much more staying power, so lets take our time, lets not have the scene explode..

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i noticed it but then again swamper is a blue fear whore.

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Originally posted by Plavka hmmm is it a coincidence that every radio station tarzan dan works at scraps their format? anyways, Z is trying to get a license to start a radio station in Edmonton with the same format. So Edmontoners, get ready for some bon jovi with your ja rule

tarzan dan is played out.....and about the Z..i heard they were thinking about starting another radio station that was going to play strictly dance only...now i dont know if thats tony monaco dance or what but im sure theyll play the typical commercialized stuff were used to them playing....yay for them (and lol@bon jovi alongside ja rule)

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe you know what though, it is slowly catching on. Look how economically viable electronic music is in EUROPE. Its reached monstourous proportions over there. Eventually it will grow once its more accepted and more prevelant here in North America. Remember electronic music hasn't been around for a while compared to other kinds of music, and unfortunatly it doesnt beat with the pulse of a community, such as say rap or hip hop does. Rap is prevelant and popular becuase it "use to" tell the stories of how it was in the ghetto and stuff. OFcourse now its just rediculous but it did once strike a cord with a whole community. And rock and punk each in there rebellious nature capitalized on the mood of the people during times of unrest. Think about it, during the 80's there was the cold war, and a dawn of Star Wars type weapons being thought up, an extremely conservative government (Reagen), along with 80's pop being released. There was a void that needed to be filled and hence why Punk rose up. Same goes with grundge during the earlyl 90's. And now think about it.. grundge became extremely popular for 5 years and then died out pretty much completely. Now in this time of all kinds of music existing, there is no void to fill, so electronic music is going to be slow to grow, and we'll have lots of people who like poop, err i mean pop, and say electronic, or rock and something else.. I'd rather have a genre of music which has much more staying power, so lets take our time, lets not have the scene explode.. ... end rant

Ya know what though? I gotta agree with ya... I think it's only a matter of time that the mainstream media will catch on. In the grand search for the dollah dollah bills and the already over saturation of pop means that record companies and music promotions will be on the look out for viable markets left untapped. You're right it happened with Punk, Rap, and pretty much every thing else. Soon enough multi billion dollar compannies will be throwing parties and names like Tiesto, Moby and BT will be house hold names....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Ya know what though? I gotta agree with ya... I think it's only a matter of time that the mainstream media will catch on. In the grand search for the dollah dollah bills and the already over saturation of pop means that record companies and music promotions will be on the look out for viable markets left untapped. You're right it happened with Punk, Rap, and pretty much every thing else. Soon enough multi billion dollar compannies will be throwing parties and names like Tiesto, Moby and BT will be house hold names.... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

I think guys like Moby are already sort of house hold names. Think about Eminem felt the need to diss Moby and "techno" on one of his most popular songs. The odd thing about eletronic music is that its not the groups that have the notoriety, its the superstar DJ that does. I wish enough recognition was given to the producers and the bands that make the music as well. Eventually electronic music will reach the heights that it is like in the UK and Northern Europe.. Some how though I hope it doesnt get intensly commercial just for the sake of the almighty dollah. When i went to Ibiza, it was so commercial and had lost its underground hippy feeling. Though it'll make the music expand, and reach a wider audience something inside me wrenches at the thought of hearing the latest trance track 6/7 times a day on 103.5 ....

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe I think guys like Moby are already sort of house hold names. Think about Eminem felt the need to diss Moby and "techno" on one of his most popular songs. The odd thing about eletronic music is that its not the groups that have the notoriety, its the superstar DJ that does. I wish enough recognition was given to the producers and the bands that make the music as well. Eventually electronic music will reach the heights that it is like in the UK and Northern Europe.. Some how though I hope it doesnt get intensly commercial just for the sake of the almighty dollah. When i went to Ibiza, it was so commercial and had lost its underground hippy feeling. Though it'll make the music expand, and reach a wider audience something inside me wrenches at the thought of hearing the latest trance track 6/7 times a day on 103.5 ....

I agree... my point was that I think it is actually happening or in fact has already happened .. say in the late 90's. Rave culture HAS been popularized to a certain degree since its early days in North America... People like Moby ARE house hold names. Trance, Jungle, House ARE generally known by most people.. whether they fully undestand each genre is another story.

Granted it hasn't gone over board "yet" - depending on who you talk to; the hardcores still would argue that todays "scene" is commercialized garbage compared to the true roots of the culture. With benson and hedges (read rich ass corporate sponsors) throwing parties at the top clubs I would argue that in due time people will begin to recognize that Trance/Techno/House etc etc IS the SHIZNAT!

I say give it 5 years and i could actually walk into work and tell my co workers that I'm going to see Tiesto on Wednesday and they'd actually know what I'm talking about.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn I agree... my point was that I think it is actually happening or in fact has already happened .. say in the late 90's. Rave culture HAS been popularized to a certain degree since its early days in North America... People like Moby ARE house hold names. Trance, Jungle, House ARE generally known by most people.. whether they fully undestand each genre is another story. Granted it hasn't gone over board "yet" - depending on who you talk to; the hardcores still would argue that todays "scene" is commercialized garbage compared to the true roots of the culture. With benson and hedges (read rich ass corporate sponsors) throwing parties at the top clubs I would argue that in due time people will begin to recognize that Trance/Techno/House etc etc IS the SHIZNAT! I say give it 5 years and i could actually walk into work and tell my co workers that I'm going to see Tiesto on Wednesday and they'd actually know what I'm talking about.

true enough, if what your seeking is to make the genre just simply more popular and accepted by the masses, then big corporations like B&H are doing the job right, I have to admit, the party @ revival was absolutly fantastic and will go down as one of the best ever. I think some of the best parties i've been too were goldclub parties for sure! I hope it just doesnt take a turn for the worse. In all honesty it would be nice to walk into work and tell your work mates your gonna see tiesto and actually have them know, but its going to be way far off in the future thats for sure.

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe true enough, if what your seeking is to make the genre just simply more popular and accepted by the masses, then big corporations like B&H are doing the job right, I have to admit, the party @ revival was absolutly fantastic and will go down as one of the best ever. I think some of the best parties i've been too were goldclub parties for sure! I hope it just doesnt take a turn for the worse. In all honesty it would be nice to walk into work and tell your work mates your gonna see tiesto and actually have them know, but its going to be way far off in the future thats for sure.

I agree with everything that you two are saying but IMO I don't think the electronic scene will ever pick up here as it has in other places in the world. The problem (especially in Toronto) is that we live in a very economic and corporate society where people go to work and then go home. I mean look at downtown Toronto after regular business hours, many days the city is empty and baron. Sure they're are many of us who understand and feel the emotion in certain types of electronic music but the majority of our society doesn't. These corporate people are very much like robots, they come to work then go home to be in they're big houses, with family and then go to bed to wake up the next morning to go back to work. Many of these people are more concerned with owning things rather than partaking in social events that create memories that they will have forever but this is the result of the society we live in. You won't be sucessfull unless they have a big house, or a fancy car. It's a very unatural human process IMO and I think people should place mor empahsis on enjoying they're lives the way they want too.

so that's my two cents

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Originally posted by ryanm I agree with everything that you two are saying but IMO I don't think the electronic scene will ever pick up here as it has in other places in the world. The problem (especially in Toronto) is that we live in a very economic and corporate society where people go to work and then go home. I mean look at downtown Toronto after regular business hours, many days the city is empty and baron. Sure they're are many of us who understand and feel the emotion in certain types of electronic music but the majority of our society doesn't. These corporate people are very much like robots, they come to work then go home to be in they're big houses, with family and then go to bed to wake up the next morning to go back to work. Many of these people are more concerned with owning things rather than partaking in social events that create memories that they will have forever but this is the result of the society we live in. You won't be sucessfull unless they have a big house, or a fancy car. It's a very unatural human process IMO and I think people should place mor empahsis on enjoying they're lives the way they want too. so that's my two cents

I agree whole heartidly.. but then you see examples like NewYork which is even more corporate then t.o.. I mean thats the money capital of the world and yet some of the worlds best clubs and parties are there. Its a shakeup of attitude that this town needs possibly. Most of the city is minorities now, and first generation minorities who werent born here who have kids that were possibly born somewhere else, frown upon having there kids run around the city at all times of night. Its hard in that respect.

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe I agree whole heartidly.. but then you see examples like NewYork which is even more corporate then t.o.. I mean thats the money capital of the world and yet some of the worlds best clubs and parties are there. Its a shakeup of attitude that this town needs possibly. Most of the city is minorities now, and first generation minorities who werent born here who have kids that were possibly born somewhere else, frown upon having there kids run around the city at all times of night. Its hard in that respect.

But you can't compare NYC to Toronto. You're comparing the city that never sleeps to Toronto and that just doesn't work. I mean NYC is the immigration capital of the world, it has been around for 450 years and thus has a population of 28 million in the NYC greater area. And although they do have great clubs, I wouldn't say that NYC is like any place in Europe in terms of electronic music. What I mean is that electronic music is not popular as Time2Burn and you wish it to be. And I would think that Toronto actually has more of an underground scene than NYC but I could be wrong.