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Originally posted by extepan I think it is you who have to wake up and be welcomed to the real world. The average salary in China is about 50 American dollars a month. Though I must say people in the cities earn a bit more. An average worker earns 100 USD a month. How can they afford a vinyl??????????????????????????????????? And you have to remember that the Chinese government imposes VERY heavy censorship on internet. In China you can't even go to cnn.com, for example. Internet cafes are also cracked down very often, after the fire in an internet cafe a year ago which killed many university students. So in view of all these, being a dance fan in China IS very hard. You cannot use your situation in your country to judge things in China. It is just too different.

Exactly...

well put nemesis...

one thing i have to say is the some people that download mp3...not all of them are downloading and not paying anything to the dj....

what if someone wants to compile a set that he/she would like to use on their set of tables.....

take a long time to figure it out buy listening to each individual vinyl....switching back and forth.....downloading mp3...could be a great way of starting a compilation and getting a basic idea of what you want your set to sound like....am i right....if you are using tables to do gigs....then im guessing your gonna wanna buy vinyls too....so you dont look like a fool spinning nothing but air on your tables.....

Now if nobody had the sources to download music then everybody would have to buy cd's in order to figure out what they wanted to compile on their tables.....lots and lots of $$$$$$$ spent on cd's considering your local music store charges way to much for one album.....like here in canada paying 40+ dollars for a PVD album...i've payed these prices...many times...and had my cd's stolen...many times......buying these cd's over and over again is a pain in the ass....myself im getting into spinning trance on tables...i find it quite nice to be able to figure out what i want to spin before i start over using my stuff....kinda guess it would make my gear last a bit longer too....yeah mp3's rip off the artists...but if your going to spin on tables you gotta buy the vinyls anyway...so all in all your still giving the artist money....your still supporting the artist.....also no where in the article posted did it say that the DJ's in china did not pay for their downloaded mp3's their are lots of online mp3 sites that you pay very little money to download the artists music...but nobody complains about them....those are very inexpensive cost way less then any vinyl or cd you can buy at a store or record stores.....

my point is that mp3's are not all that bad...one way or the other you are going to have to pay the artist....even if you download the music....you will still end up paying....not every song is on the net....their are tons of songs that you cant find....and on top of that the quality of the songs are not always that great....

thats pretty much all im saying....but im not saying do not support the dj's by not buying their albums.....myself i dont even know how much the average dj gets payed at a gig...not quite sure guess i will have to look that up....anyway i support dj's as much as i can...i buy albums....i buy vinyl....but i also live in a city that does not get all the albums i want to buy...hell dont even get most of the good stuff for trance......we dont have a record store...and i dont have a credit card......but i dont mean to babel......anyway..i dont know...just a recap....mp3's are not that bad....

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As someone that has actually been to China, yes I sympathize greatly with any aspiring DJ in the mainland. Nemesis said it very well, paying 60-75 kuai for a record, plus taxes, is unreasonable for anyone other than the ultra-rich in China. Also, the Chinese government has very strict policies on imported goods, which is why there isn't a single record store in all of China (Hong Kong excluded, lots of record stores there). That certainly holds true for hip hop DJs anyways, as anything with explicit content is banned by China's censorship laws on imports. For the records that do get through, I imagine that the $12 US they paid online is actually doubled, or like automobiles, maybe even quintipled by taxes (yes, it literally costs 5 times as much to buy a car in China as it does in Canada).

Let's say your average guy my age in Canada or the States is making like 1000-2000 dollars a month. If records cost $100-$450 dollars each, how many DJs do you think you would see? I'd wager to say there'd be a whole lot more MP3 DJs, and that the practice would be significantly less frowned upon.

Personally, I buy records because it encourages artists to make more music that I enjoy. Unfortunately for your average aspiring DJ in the mainland of China, this is simply not an option for them. Who knows? Maybe one day if they ever make it as a DJ they'll give back tenfold to the industry.

Finally, there are probably more people on this site alone that leech from the record industry than there are aspiring DJs in China that do; and at least IMO the DJs in China have an excuse.