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Inertia
yes.

Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
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Nicke, i would think not, but when it's already filled
with kids, why not 1 more? seriously though, i respect the
opinion, but when every other kid is inside, i think i have a
right to WANT to be inside. not hurting anyone by trying, heh.
i also agree with you on the other mater, the bouncer was just
doing his job. in my case, he does his job very well, but only
when it's me at the door 
MOSCHINO, calm it down man, this is just a discussion,
no need to go ballistic on anyone. i think you have neglected
to notice how i have mentioned over and over that this club is
letting kids in, just not me. i think it's ignorant to assume
that just because i am 15, i cant have heard Umek. im sorry if
until now you havent met a young person who likes Umek, or good
music for that matter. thats just too bad. back when you were
15, if you liked this type of music back then, wouldn't you have
been even a bit bothered if you were in a situation where they
only uphold the rules to screw you? but if this is gonna start
a flamewar lets just leave it at that.
i know im not supposed to be going to clubs at 15, but if people
that are my age and dont even like the music are let in, why
shouldnt i?
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Jul-21-2003 21:28
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Thierry
Jennifer Rene Addict
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
Nicke, i would think not, but when it's already filled
with kids, why not 1 more? seriously though, i respect the
opinion, but when every other kid is inside, i think i have a
right to WANT to be inside. not hurting anyone by trying, heh. |
Hey Inertia, tough break but you said it.. you have a right to WANT to be inside, nothing more. I know how you feel because I went through it but that's the thing, EVERYONE had to go through it. Just look at it this way, you had a good and lucky thing going for a bit, but that is over now and you have to face reality, that you're only 15. I remember when some of my friends had fakes and I didn't and then when I had pull at clubs and my younger friends didn't have fakes, we all go through it. I know you're extra pissed off because you are singled out, but ignore that fact and just think of it as you are actually 15, not older, and you have to face facts that the clubs aren't for you and it might be unfair due to your friends, but that's life.
Wait a few more years, I promise it won't kill ya, it'll just help you appreciate trance more 
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Jul-21-2003 21:46
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Dj O'Callaghan
The UKTA Triggerman
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Northampton UK
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Bouncers they've got such fantastic communication skills. Nah trust me mate last thing you want to do is punch him or get a weapon and give it the big man, cos where I'm from all the doormen work for the same company and theres some mean mother ******s working for this company, kickboxers, boxers, kung fu experts, brawlers, ex cons, and ppl around town who have a reputation of being tough.
I've had experience kicking off with bouncers on quite a lot of occasions . One time I was at a friends birthday party in some bar and this female bouncer gave it some attitude to my friends that she could put a pal of mine on his arse, needless to say a few drinks later it kicked off, and this female bouncer got shoved down some stairs (she fucking deserved it) and next thing you know bottles are flying in every direction and stools getting thrown at the other 3 doormen in there, but mind you there was like 60 odd ppl at the party on our side.
We got involved in a big fight once in a club and spilled out into the streets, the doormen got involved even though it was out of their jurastiction they just ran in punching everyone, and one headbutted me a fucking treat aswell, some mates spotted what was happening and ran in and it turned into quite a big scene. Police ended up arriving and people got arrested.
I've seen endless injustices with bouncers at the end of the day you can't really do much, some bouncers are decent people, others have big attitude problems and get kicks out intimidating people and making peoples nights out miserable. Most of them are tough people well every doorman I personally know I wouldn't want to mess with them, when your drunk its a different story and you think your fucking bulletproof, but at the end of the day these guys have the back up in people from their door company, If a fight happens and the police turn up the police will take their word over yours. Speaking from all my experience fighting with doormen isn't worth it unless you have a big mob of people.
Use the diplomatic approach or keep low profile then try again.
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Jul-22-2003 01:09
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Inertia
yes.

Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
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CraveTheRave, good advice, but ill be going to any
place i can get into until i can get my official ID, that
or till i can make an official ID myself (the artwork is
easy, its printing it in plastic thats a prob.) heh, i know
its wrong, but im not doing it for bad purposes, if i could
get into clubs and only get asked for ID when buying drinks,
which i think would be damn good, things would be so much
easier.
MOSCHINO, i dont really have a curfew. you see, i wasnt
much of the stay out late type till i started clubbing. there
was nothing, or nothing that appealed to me, to do during night
time. id avoid most school parties as they are the lamest excuse
for a party ive ever seen. id catch a movie with some close friends
but thats about it. december 26, 2002; the day before Deep Dish
spun here, i had a chat with my parents, they were cool with it,
i said i was coming home at 7am, there wasnt a problem. they know
im not into drugs of any kind, and im broke on my ass most of the
time, barely being able to afford the cover price, let alone drinks.
aside from all that, i think i can say i have the coolest parents
ever. my father is now a tribal/funk/prog house addict, my mother
the same, their favorites are Frankie Knuckles, Steve Lawler,
Danny Tenaglia, DJ Chus and such. it's a long story really, but to
sum it up, a week after Deep Dish abacus was having a free event,
two local DJs in a back to back vs. i commented on how i wanted to
go, and had no ride, so dad offered to go with me. so we're walking
in and not 10 seconds go by when this guy comes over and hugs my dad,
ALDJ, our country's best local knows my dad from about 12 years ago.
dad sold ALDJ his first racing kart when he was 15, and helped him
fix up his first car. anyways, dad and i were there till 4:30am,
left, got a bite to eat, and came home. so dad is clear on what goes
on at these places and he knows he can trust me. im there solely for
the music, rarely even drink (even at open bars).
so basically no curfew, i just ask for permission when i go out,
and dad will say 'i want you here before 4am'. if im fine with that
ok, if theres still more music worth hearing after 4am ill negotiate
with him. sometimes of course, i have to give in.
Dj O'Callaghan damn man, you have worse problems than just
not getting in. sure, i can fake documents, lie my way into clubs
and get pissed at bouncers, but FUCK, you could shoot a terminator
movie with that shit. haha.
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Jul-22-2003 01:56
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deejaya
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Portsmouth, England
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Jul-22-2003 02:07
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