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Originally posted by Arbiter I don't know about the rest of you, but I believe in a little thing called personal responsibility; a thing that says both people are equally responsible for whatever relationships they choose to engage in. I also don't agree with the original poster. In many societies past and present girls at a very young age were married to men 30 or more years older than them. Evidence suggests that these relationships were more stable than modern relationships between people of similar age. It follows that age difference alone does not doom a relationship.

/Respectfully disagrees with Arbiter but refuses to get into another 6 page argument about age restrictions

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Originally posted by Arbiter I also don't agree with the original poster. In many societies past and present girls at a very young age were married to men 30 or more years older than them. Evidence suggests that these relationships were more stable than modern relationships between people of similar age. It follows that age difference alone does not doom a relationship.

i dont think those relationsips had to do with the age difference so much as that the roles of each partner in the relationship were more defined: the woman did what the man directed. it doesnt work that way anymore.

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Originally posted by butterfly i dont think those relationsips had to do with the age difference so much as that the roles of each partner in the relationship were more defined: the woman did what the man directed. it doesnt work that way anymore.

There is a lot of truth to what you say, and I think you've managed to cut straight to the real issue here. The expectations that each person who enters into the relationship holds are more likely to be widely varied or incompatible when the people are of drastically different ages in our society. It is this gap, not the age gap per se, which really makes these relationships often fail eventually.

it all depends on the situation...if both are adults, then ppl. usually dont give (as much of) a fuck...like if the woman is 30 and the guy is 40, ppl. will usually be alot easier on them than if the guy is 25 and the girl 15

guess its the whole "women crave confidence, security " blah blah blah thing

when all else fails, don't underestimate Miss Palmer and her five sisters...

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I really don't get it,
My mum has told me men never mature...so why do women go for men that are mature

Hehehe

Girls are just as immature. The girls who go out with lads older, where i live, well they're usually boy races, live on benifit or a dead end job and are nobs. They believe they're getting security, pff!! whatever. Girls just want to grow up quicker than what they should do, becuase society throws at them images of pop stars wearing sexy clothes and talking about their sex lives, girls get this idea in their head that they must do the same, then they dress sexier, look older, and bang, you got the problem! If you want an example of this, just go to a primary school on a no-uniform day....lads are wearing sports clothes in year 6 (10-11 yr olds) and girls are wearing more older clothing, like mini skirts.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH when all else fails, don't underestimate Miss Palmer and her five sisters...

LOL thats funny. Ive heard miss palmer before but not the five sisters. Hahah

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Originally posted by cassiopeia I am 16 & my boyfriend of almost a year is 21. I know he doesn't fall into the 25-30 age group, but I thought i'd post anyway :P Every guy I have ever had something with has been older than me. Here is my reason why: I apologise for generalising but in the area I am from every 16 year old boy is like this: "yO biTCh! i'M gOiNg to QBH tONiGhT & i'M weAriNg maH fAke fuBu n DaDa i BouGhT fRoM viCToRiA mArKeT yO. aNd u BeTTa wAtCh yO bAcK hOmEz cOz Me n Mah BoyZ wiLL BuSt yO aSs cOz iM tOo MuCh oF a wiMp tO dO iT mYSeLf. CHaT tO mE oN iRc mY NiCk iS No|LiMiT|SoLDiEr. Ja RuLe iS my iDoL yo." Sorry but they do not interest me at all. Older guys have usually grown out of this "stage" and thus are much more appealing!

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makes a lot of sense, but it really pisses us off when
a girl would rather date an older guy who 'grew out'
of such a stage to a younger one who never entered it.
sure, there arent many of us, but its about that whole
understanding of female deal, you want security, you
want maturity, etc that no one your age has, when one
of your age does just happen to meet the requirements,
"err, he's not my type". women will be our end i tell
you. and as someone already mentioned, it has a lot to
do with the time periods. 13y/o female with 18y/o male
is a very big difference, but 25y/o female with 30y/o
male isnt.

i understand that no one should be up in your business,
but if i started dating a girl 5 years younger, i'd
expect getting bashed for it. if it's really worth it,
i wouldnt complain about it.

take for example this girl that was in my class. when
she was 14, she had a 19y/o boyfriend, that was pretty
much a thug like the ones you describe, and of course,
she denied it to the fullest extent. he is mature, he
is this, bla bla bla. god, us young, mature, smart,
sensitive, witty, interesting, fun loving, clever,
AVAILABLE guys dont have any chance do we?

ran ends * \

EDIT: and another thing. MEN NEVER MATURE/CHANGE/LEARN.
we just sort of evolve. instead of going over to a chick
we want to get with and saying 'fancy a fuck?', once a man
evolves, he would go and seduce her in the maturest, most
stylish way. women would find that fascinating, yet all
that process was his evolved way of saying "fancy a fuck?".
anyone understanding what i mean? dont give us that crap
that your bf is the best bla bla bla, he just learned
to masquerade that "fancy a fuck?" REALLY well.

ok, rant ends **\\

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Originally posted by occrider Your sister? Haha don't lie, we see you leering at her in pics.

oh man your going to far with that! thats way to far i cant belive you said that! you went to far and that is uncalled for!

- everyone knows his sister is really 10

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Originally posted by CynepMeH when all else fails, don't underestimate Miss Palmer and her five sisters...

or what about mrs palm and her five lovely daughters?

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Originally posted by Inertia /* rant begins makes a lot of sense, but it really pisses us off when a girl would rather date an older guy who 'grew out' of such a stage to a younger one who never entered it. sure, there arent many of us, but its about that whole understanding of female deal, you want security, you want maturity, etc that no one your age has, when one of your age does just happen to meet the requirements, "err, he's not my type". women will be our end i tell you. and as someone already mentioned, it has a lot to do with the time periods. 13y/o female with 18y/o male is a very big difference, but 25y/o female with 30y/o male isnt. i understand that no one should be up in your business, but if i started dating a girl 5 years younger, i'd expect getting bashed for it. if it's really worth it, i wouldnt complain about it. take for example this girl that was in my class. when she was 14, she had a 19y/o boyfriend, that was pretty much a thug like the ones you describe, and of course, she denied it to the fullest extent. he is mature, he is this, bla bla bla. god, us young, mature, smart, sensitive, witty, interesting, fun loving, clever, AVAILABLE guys dont have any chance do we? ran ends * \ EDIT: and another thing. MEN NEVER MATURE/CHANGE/LEARN. we just sort of evolve. instead of going over to a chick we want to get with and saying 'fancy a fuck?', once a man evolves, he would go and seduce her in the maturest, most stylish way. women would find that fascinating, yet all that process was his evolved way of saying "fancy a fuck?". anyone understanding what i mean? dont give us that crap that your bf is the best bla bla bla, he just learned to masquerade that "fancy a fuck?" REALLY well. ok, rant ends **\\

Oh man, I feel so strong about this issue as well,
I'm 18, most girls I know are dating 25 year olds because they simply think they're more 'mature' than the rest of us... It's stupid & ridiculous. I totally agree with this guy's post, just read it....

PLUS

Girls have sex at a younger age than guys due to this same problem...
I'm not saying there should be a balance but I am stating that it's a problem within a problem, let's take it a step at a time shall we??

And please, if you're under 19 and dating guys 20+... I think it's you girls who arn't mature.

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Originally posted by joeh152 - everyone knows his sister is really 10

Pffffffft! Like guys remember their girlfriend's birthdays anyway.

Edit: Btw what happened to the official flame thread? There was good stuff in there.

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