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Haunted
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not anymore. but if he used to use split cue,that means he just did the left cue also, so without split cue, it would be the same. except in the right cue would be the master instead of cued song.


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IntegraR0064
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not anymore. but if he used to use split cue,that means he just did the left cue also, so without split cue, it would be the same. except in the right cue would be the master instead of cued song.


No..as I mentioned before, there's a little bit of a lag in there if you're listening to the monitors. It messes with your head if you only do it one way.


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DJScottKeith
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Totally depends on the enviornment I am spinning @ and the equipment I am using.

My usual method is to beatmatch close w/ one ear on the cans and the other off, then re-cue the track and get it close again and throw on both phones to finish the job & touch it up. When I'm ready to mix I will do the same and mix w/ the cans off but hold them up now and then to double check the beats until I can hear both clearly in the monitors.

If you have sucky monitors or a big enviornment its hard to do this though so I'll usually mix in the cans.


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bachatu
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Registered: May 2001
Location: South Florida

I mix with 1 open ear and 1 ear on headphones. This is what I got used to. Its about getting comfortable. I have a master cue knob, but not cue split.. so mixing in headphones feels nasty. Ive mixed in headphones with a cue split mixer before, and I still like it with one ear open. However, you can get screwed if you dont have a proper monitor system.

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

First of all it depends on what your intent is with your DJing. If you do it as a hobby and have no intention on playing anywhere except at home or a friends party, I would say do whatever works for you.

If you are planning on being a club DJ then you had better get used to do it as many ways as you can.
I get to play in some nice clubs and sometimes some really sh*tty ones too.
You never know what you actually will encounter, what state the mixer will be in or if the club owner/promoter will even know what you are talking about when you mention monitor.
When I started out I had to play some places where a mix wasn't even to be considered.
So many things change when you play a club. Firstly the sound is so damn huge! It can actually be quite a shock for some people (I know it stunned me first time).

My prefered method is hearing everything in both ears. Quite useful as most mixers will give you the option of doing that if nothing else. I have been doing that for years now and don't have any problems sorting out the different sounds from one another. It also helps me judge the volume differences between the two tracks. What I mean is that I hear Cue from both channels in both cups. You get used to it.

As stated earlier, a lot of the top DJs do use the one ear on, one off method but you have to realise that they also have damn good monitors at the types of gigs they play. Us lesser mortals get all sorts of mad crap to put up with

Sound 'lag'. Yes you do get it without question but you can get used to the difference. I have known some DJs to compensate by pulling the can away from the ear just a bit. Not sure if this works, too busy working eqs and stuff to try it.

Whatever method you use, just be sure to check the sound on the dance floor every so often, it's not allways what the monitor or head phones tell you.
My advice to the young DJ would be to get used to the idea of matching records first, that can be confusing enough to the untrained ear. Use the method that works best for you so that you get comfortable with the concept. After that you will be better at hearing it so you can start experimenting with various ways of doing it.
Also remember that a big set up can be more forgiving on your mixes than your speakers at home so you will actually get away with more. DJs also tend to give punters more credit for hearing a bad mix than they actually deserve. Other DJs will hear it, but the majority of clubbers are there for the music and your selection of tunes, not so much how well you beat match (within reason of course).

All the best
Nemesis44


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djtrancendance
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Seattle, USA

does vmx 300 support split cueing?

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Alekos
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Behringer ?
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Zack Roth
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I use my headphones only. I've tried the one ear way, and it is a lot harder. I can always manage to get the beats really close to each other, but not perfectly matched. I always end up switching to split-cue to check to see if they are on perfectly.

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Acid John
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Close south suburb of Chicago, illinois, usa.

to beatmatch i have the cue track in the left ear and live in the right.... either with the right ear listenin thru the headphones, or live speakers.... it dont really matter

also for mixing i have started to try somethin new. once the tunes are beatmatched, i have the headphones over both ears, and i switch to blend (both the cue and live tracks are played on left and right) so it sounds as if they were being mixed live....it helps a lot to make sure things are equed right before you actully mix it live. if you only use split cue, you can hear the changes to the cue track, but you still dont know if the cue track will really mix well with the live track.


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Dj Ve
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Oslo

I do split-que. I find the sound from the monitors laggy, even if they`re about 40 cm away from me. I also mix alot better when split-qued than monitor / que. As said, the lagging doesn`t quite do it for me. Guess practise is all that matters really.

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conk
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Inspiration

i combine the two songs, thats how i learned as that was the only option on my old mixer.


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TwiloNYC
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: NY, NY

all in my headphones 1st then after starting the mix live, listen with one ear on the speaker monitor to double check live sound.

to me, monitors lag a split second vs. the headphones just because of the sound from the speaker needs to carry further.

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