well if there's no full length tracks availible on CD then im downloading it aswell. When will they relise that L-Vee dosent have commercial appeal, therefore edits are NOT needed. IF they release a bunch of edits on cd, and only full length mixes on a self-delapadating format, i'll never buy a single release of his and carryone downloading them all.

The only exception i can think of is V-One - Dead Cities EP which is availible on CD (and i own). Lost Language understand whats commercial and whats not.

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Originally posted by Nell well if there's no full length tracks availible on CD then im downloading it aswell. When will they relise that L-Vee dosent have commercial appeal, therefore edits are NOT needed.

sometimes it is needed.. otherwise they would have to release a 5cd set!

what would you rather do? buy a 2cd-album for 25$ or a 5cd-album for 50$?

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Originally posted by tor8024 sometimes it is needed.. otherwise they would have to release a 5cd set! what would you rather do? buy a 2cd-album for 25$ or a 5cd-album for 50$?

Well, this is the tracklist for Believe:

01. I Want To Believe (Dolphin Mix)
02. Musings Of A Lifetime
03. Save Me
04. Another Dimension
05. Devotion
06. Above The Sky 2002
07. Alone In The Dark
08. Innerspace
09. Ladyblue
10. When Things Go Wrong...
11. Sunspot (DCML Mix)
12 Trust No. 1

He could have excluded the previously released tracks (Save Me, Alone In The Dark, Innerspace, Sunspot). That leaves 8 tracks. Depending on the length that would probably be enough to fill the CD; if some end up being shorter he could add another unreleased track. In any event I'd much prefer 8-9 full-length new tracks to a mixed bag of edits and older material.

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Originally posted by tor8024 sometimes it is needed.. otherwise they would have to release a 5cd set! what would you rather do? buy a 2cd-album for 25$ or a 5cd-album for 50$?

i'd buy the 5 cd album any time for sure!!

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Originally posted by starglider Well, this is the tracklist for Believe: 01. I Want To Believe (Dolphin Mix) 02. Musings Of A Lifetime 03. Save Me 04. Another Dimension 05. Devotion 06. Above The Sky 2002 07. Alone In The Dark 08. Innerspace 09. Ladyblue 10. When Things Go Wrong... 11. Sunspot (DCML Mix) 12 Trust No. 1 He could have excluded the previously released tracks (Save Me, Alone In The Dark, Innerspace, Sunspot). That leaves 8 tracks. Depending on the length that would probably be enough to fill the CD; if some end up being shorter he could add another unreleased track. In any event I'd much prefer 8-9 full-length new tracks to a mixed bag of edits and older material.

i'm totally with you on this one! no edits are needed, i'd much rather have less tracks if they were full versions!

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Originally posted by skip i'm totally with you on this one! no edits are needed, i'd much rather have less tracks if they were full versions!

me too, but lightning records wanted his album to sell! lots of people won't pay 20$ for 'only' 8 tracks..

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Originally posted by tor8024 me too, but lightning records wanted his album to sell! lots of people won't pay 20$ for 'only' 8 tracks..

You have a valid point, and I'm sure that's what influenced their decision. However, I wonder how the number of people who wouldn't buy an 8-track album compares to the number of people who didn't buy Believe (myself, Nell, etc.) because of the tracklisting. Airwave isn't exactly a household name, even in Belgium (I presume). A large portion of his fans are surely those who know what to expect from quality trance producers and realize that L-Vee's tracks simply aren't five or six minutes long.

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Originally posted by starglider You have a valid point, and I'm sure that's what influenced their decision. However, I wonder how the number of people who wouldn't buy an 8-track album compares to the number of people who didn't buy Believe (myself, Nell, etc.) because of the tracklisting. Airwave isn't exactly a household name, even in Belgium (I presume). A large portion of his fans are surely those who know what to expect from quality trance producers and realize that L-Vee's tracks simply aren't five or six minutes long.

yeah that's true.. i think maybe they wanted to release something in between, so that more people would buy it and that at the same time his true fans wouldn't be dissapointed by very short 'radio edits' or something.. so they cut a few tracks down to 6 minutes instead of the original 9.. but obviously a track only has its full power in the original version, especially these epic uplifters from l-vee

i guess the new 2-cd set will be better, what with 4 earlier released tracks in full version on cd 2 and all (theft of the spirit, alone in the dark, etc.?)

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Originally posted by tor8024 yeah that's true.. i think maybe they wanted to release something in between, so that more people would buy it and that at the same time his true fans wouldn't be dissapointed by very short 'radio edits' or something.. so they cut a few tracks down to 6 minutes instead of the original 9.. but obviously a track only has its full power in the original version, especially these epic uplifters from l-vee i guess the new 2-cd set will be better, what with 4 earlier released tracks in full version on cd 2 and all (theft of the spirit, alone in the dark, etc.?)

Yeah, it's a decent compromise but I guess I'm just hard to please.

Anyway I'll definitely aim to buy the new release, if for no other reason than to support him and his work.

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Originally posted by stanymi TOTALLY AGREED. Where can we find this vinyl album ? And is it go out in LP ?

its not coming out on vinyl, which sucks i think. but ya

the album could easily have all full length tracks on a 2cd album, and still have room for more. i dont care if any fo them are full length, except musings of a lifetime and lady blue, if those were full on the first one, i wouldnt really care.

is it just me or does another dimension sound exactly like silent cry???

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Originally posted by Isannah is it just me or does another dimension sound exactly like silent cry???

its alone in the dark that does, but of coures, he is half of fire and ice, but you know that already