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prolikewhoa
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Berlin

quote:
Originally posted by Eisbaer
note to self: viper is pro-israeli


omfg are you keeping tabs of everyone who's pro-israeli and pro-palestinian?! making a checklist?

get a life, and stop contradicting yourself.


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Old Post Aug-17-2003 19:30  Germany
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Eisbaer
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Oakland

yes, im keeping tabs on pro this and pro that.

note to self: prolikeawhore is pro criticize

yes i contradict myself, it attracts people like you to my thread so that you can point out the obvious


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Old Post Aug-17-2003 20:14  United States
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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
but you need to see what came first?,i mean the palastinians have started this big attack on israel in 2000 and then as a response the IDF came inside the terretories and fighted terror in the best way
and its a fact that it did some good
(and dont tell me they kill innocente people out of porpuse,if you want you can compare the US army and the israeli armiy standerts of morality and you will see the diffrence)
i think that sharon made the right thing,if you have a better solution to the terror infested terrtories then tell me!
and dont tell me "to give the palastinians a country and this will end this" ,becuse doing peace with the PO that cant\dont want to control the terror orginazations is a risk that no country including sweden will take


and i think that the pal" people suicide becuse they see terror as a good way of getting the bigger part of israel and the part that they want and only what they want nothing less,and not the 98& of the terretory that israel has offered them and also please dont make these fuck headz into heros,maybe you want us to give the palastinians sacrifices to satisfy their thirst for dead israelies


Okay, this is my solution to the problem. Nuke 'em all, or maybe not, that's almost what you are trying to do though... I think if they had a country worth living in it would be harder to recruit suiciders, or at least it would be easier to fight them if you had the palistine authoritys on your side. Imagine their situation, they don't have enough money to fight you in a tradional way, so they fight you in the terror way. Exacly what i should do if i where them. Don't tell me you would have been looking at your enemy while they stole your land (yes, that's a quastion of defenitions....)...

No it's not easy to do peace with PO, but how do you want it to stop? You have to accept that they have the right for their land, like they have to accept that you have the right to your land. Otherwise this will never end! It's a risk, but it's the only way to solve the conflict (yes you can nuke 'em all too). So remove all your settlments on the palistine territory and help them build up a country worth living in!

Old Post Aug-17-2003 20:28  Europe
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Viber
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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
Okay, this is my solution to the problem. Nuke 'em all, or maybe not, that's almost what you are trying to do though... I think if they had a country worth living in it would be harder to recruit suiciders, or at least it would be easier to fight them if you had the palistine authoritys on your side. Imagine their situation, they don't have enough money to fight you in a tradional way, so they fight you in the terror way. Exacly what i should do if i where them. Don't tell me you would have been looking at your enemy while they stole your land (yes, that's a quastion of defenitions....)...

No it's not easy to do peace with PO, but how do you want it to stop? You have to accept that they have the right for their land, like they have to accept that you have the right to your land. Otherwise this will never end! It's a risk, but it's the only way to solve the conflict (yes you can nuke 'em all too). So remove all your settlments on the palistine territory and help them build up a country worth living in!


i understand your pain for the many murders that have died becuse of israel,terrorists are a shitty little life form nothing more,sharon didnt "nuke em" if israel have wanted to really erase the palastinians then israel whould have done it already

you need to understand that the palastinians cant come to sharon with a gun in one hand and with a pen in the other and say "lets do peace!"
you really dont understand that if we will give the pal" a country when the terrorist orginazations are still up and running,:after they will have what they "belong" of israel they will see that terror is working and then even the people of haifa,tel-aviv etc will be forced to leave too becuse the terrorists will want this parts or else - the atacks will continue

you cant let terror win!

i dont think any israeli will care if there will be a pal" country or if the settelments will be removed,after all we are up for peace but you cant do peace with an authority that cant control all of its psychopathes that wants to sanctify the islam ruling on the "whole israel" ,when abbas control the pal" people ,the palastinians will have a country

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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Viber
i understand your pain for the many murders that have died becuse of israel,terrorists are a shitty little life form nothing more,sharon didnt "nuke em" if israel have wanted to really erase the palastinians then israel whould have done it already

you need to understand that the palastinians cant come to sharon with a gun in one hand and with a pen in the other and say "lets do peace!"
you really dont understand that if we will give the pal" a country when the terrorist orginazations are still up and running,:after they will have what they "belong" of israel they will see that terror is working and then even the people of haifa,tel-aviv etc will be forced to leave too becuse the terrorists will want this parts or else - the atacks will continue

you cant let terror win!

i dont think any israeli will care if there will be a pal" country or if the settelments will be removed,after all we are up for peace but you cant do peace with an authority that cant control all of its psychopathes that wants to sanctify the islam ruling on the "whole israel" ,when abbas control the pal" people ,the palastinians will have a country


Okay, i think i have to make myself even clearer: Make their life worth living and the suicide attacts will stop or at least it will be much fewer than now!

How do you think this will end if you not give them their country? This psychopathes you are talking about wouldn't be a great problem if the majoroty of the people had a nice peacefull free country to live in. Psychopates get supporters if ppl are desperate (hitler, mogawe etc)...

About terror, i don't think it's good to let it win, but it's even worse to let it continue... And i think all kind of wars is a shitty little form of life....

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Viber
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quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
Okay, i think i have to make myself even clearer: Make their life worth living and the suicide attacts will stop or at least it will be much fewer than now!

How do you think this will end if you not give them their country? This psychopathes you are talking about wouldn't be a great problem if the majoroty of the people had a nice peacefull free country to live in. Psychopates get supporters if ppl are desperate (hitler, mogawe etc)...

About terror, i don't think it's good to let it win, but it's even worse to let it continue... And i think all kind of wars is a shitty little form of life....


terror is not about desprate people,or at least not in the palastinians case,becuse its a fact that they had equal right once and they had what every israeli had,and even now the "arab israelies" that have a job and have a house and a car and are living with no soldiers that "bothers" them even these arabs are helping out to terrorists,the plastinians could have peace already, but they have choosen terror becuse they think that in this way israel will give them 70% of israel,including the whole jerusalem,so when arafat and these orginazations say that if there"s a palastinian that is not interested in the whole he can jerusalem then drink from the water of Gaza i beilive them,think about it if the palastinians have wanted just what they have deserve they would have been taking the offer from Ehod barak in camp david 2000 (98% of the terretory)
to tell you the truth,i feel sorry for the palastinians that just want the country that they deserve from israel and nothing more,the SAIN palastinians

i think that israel cant let the intifada win,but let abbas with the sain palastinians that are aginst terror win,you think diffrently i respect your opinion,im tired of showing the people of the world the israeli point of view

I quit

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: stop talking trash about israel and the us

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
and what the hell do you think,that rich people from Iraq,syria,iran and other arab countries dont give them money for terror or weapons??


Iran is not an Arab country, don't confuse it as being one.

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Viber
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Originally posted by Superstar
Iran is not an Arab country, don't confuse it as being one.



but iran is a supporter for terror




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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by Viber
but iran is a supporter for terror




/me quit


Isreal supports terror as well.... its called STATE TERRORISM


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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
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hehe viber take it easy, it's a political forum, we respect your opinions even though we don't share them =)

Just one more quastion: Do you regret anything that Isreal has done in the peace process or that you think they should have done anything that they haven't? Do you really think that Israel is for everything good and palestine for everything that is evil? I must say that I think Israel has a bigger responsible for the peace, you are the civilized country...

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DJBARON
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further proof

cyrusking: Isreal supports terror as well.... its called STATE TERRORISM

your a hater man just more proof! state terrorism? who are you to decide that the actions that a state takes as one way or another? you justify palestinian tactics, but go against israel no matter what you say your wrong!!!! someone needs to report this sly guys filth tactics


where is swamper when he is needed???


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Cyrus King
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Re: further proof

quote:
Originally posted by DJBARON
cyrusking: Isreal supports terror as well.... its called STATE TERRORISM

your a hater man just more proof! state terrorism? who are you to decide that the actions that a state takes as one way or another? you justify palestinian tactics, but go against israel no matter what you say your wrong!!!! someone needs to report this sly guys filth tactics


where is swamper when he is needed???


You are ignorant..and israel like the US support state terrorism...same with Russia against the chechyens...and terrorists attack back too with terrorism...

If you do not think palestinians are experiencing terror.. you are in denial.


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