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Victor Dinaire
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: The Lost Episode

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
EDM Magazines?...who cares....only people who read those are the people who don't go out and dont know the scene....case in point look at the readers of DJ Mag...that list every year is a JOKE...wasnt Armin 2 years ago at #57?????///....LOL....

Right SMALL record labels are shutting down while the others are being picked up by corporate mongrals..only to rape and pillage the music....

Superclubs shutting down?...where...in NYC?...Twilo shut down more then 2 years ago...get over it....besides NASA parties where better then Twilo anyway...but your probally too young to remeber those.

Artists bookings dropped?....like who's?

The reason people are clubbing as much anymore is because the scene is too mainstream...anyone and everyone ventures into the clubs now...where in 1991-1997 the majority of these people would be denied at the doors of NYC clubs....

All these juice head, bridge and tunnel, candy, E popping, wannabe real NYC club kids because they saw Michael Alig on the E! channel are fucking up the scene for the die-hards...yet making it more profitable then it ever has been....

People who bought music are now downloading it?...that has been the case for many many years now my friend...WAKE UP it's the 21st century....

Was i "BORN" into this lifestyle?...not per se....but i have been listening to this music since 1984 and have NEVER left...so maybe there was a few years after i was born before i got into...but i can pretty much say i have been in it my whole life....i was in NASA and going to Robot parties in NYC when half these kids in clubs now where in diapers....we don't need the new followers liek you say...they are the ones fucking it up...are you that blind?...look at the QUALITY of trance/tech/prog/house etc etc to a few years back...are you kidding me?..you think it is better now?...it is NOT because it is too mainstream...not good for us but GREAT for the money hungry bitches.

Would i JUMP to do a motorolla commercial?....i don't know...it depends whats at stake...my pride? my dignity? at that cost then the answer would be absolutley NOT....money isnt everything my friend...as you get older you will realize that....so to answer your question honestly i would not of done it like PVD did and i would not of did shit with Coke like Tiesto did...i guess my morals and trueness to the scene means more to me then say 50 thousand or whatever they both got for the endorsements....but hey thats me.



you are so off in many ways its funny

first off, i am much MORE EXPERIENCED in this INDUSTRY THEN YOU THINK

Michael Alig? I WORKED IN THE OFFICE NEXT TO HIM FOR 2 YEARS! i bet you didnt know that.

Robots? I went when JONATHAN PETERS used to play there.
i was a part of that whole era your talking about. i participating in making it happen.


i remember when paul van dyk played at palladium back in 1995

or better yet, when pvd was a tiny name on the flyer for alan sancuary's heaven party that he called the cops on. remember that? new years eve 1994??

please do yourself a favor and dont underestimate other people

also, pvd didnt comprimise at all for doign the commercial. i hope he does more.

and by the way, im 28 too

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by beema
umm, I didnt get scared when you said you would come to Glow to kick my ass cause I made you look like the fucking idiot you are on TA (which btw, is the gayest thing ever to want to get in a fight for)
so shut your damn mouth you dumb cock, cuz you never even showed up at Glow.
If you so much as look at me when I am at PVD trying to have a good time, I will shove my keys through your fucking neck.
So piss the fuck off you stupid internet flamer douchebag, get a fucking life, fucking pathetic for a 28 year old
your mom must be real proud


Of course my mom is proud...i have 2 degrees, lived on my own since i was 18, am completley self sufficient and many other things.

You won't shove shit anywhere....i jus figured since you want to call me names on here that you would like to do the same in person....

But we both know you wont...so give it up....cus your a TOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

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NYGblue
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Spain from Jan. to July

quote:
Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1
you are so off in many ways its funny

first off, i am much MORE EXPERIENCED in this INDUSTRY THEN YOU THINK

Michael Alig? I WORKED IN THE OFFICE NEXT TO HIM FOR 2 YEARS! i bet you didnt know that.

Robots? I went when JONATHAN PETERS used to play there.
i was a part of that whole era your talking about. i participating in making it happen.


i remember when paul van dyk played at palladium back in 1995

or better yet, when pvd was a tiny name on the flyer for alan sancuary's heaven party that he called the cops on. remember that? new years eve 1994??

please do yourself a favor and dont underestimate other people

also, pvd didnt comprimise at all for doign the commercial. i hope he does more.

and by the way, im 28 too
I was hoping you would whip all dat shit out... ROFL... yo if Reuben and Tiesto14 go at it, I AM TAKIN PICTURES!


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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1
you are so off in many ways its funny

first off, i am much MORE EXPERIENCED in this INDUSTRY THEN YOU THINK

Michael Alig? I WORKED IN THE OFFICE NEXT TO HIM FOR 2 YEARS! i bet you didnt know that.

Robots? I went when JONATHAN PETERS used to play there.
i was a part of that whole era your talking about. i participating in making it happen.


i remember when paul van dyk played at palladium back in 1995

or better yet, when pvd was a tiny name on the flyer for alan sancuary's heaven party that he called the cops on. remember that? new years eve 1994??

please do yourself a favor and dont underestimate other people

also, pvd didnt comprimise at all for doign the commercial. i hope he does more.

and by the way, im 28 too



K i misjudged you...i apologize...but since u lived those days also...you KNOW that the people in the scene are not the same...u can not deny that....

We can reminice all day long about old parties....how about 1993 The Rave New World Tour with Richie Hawtin, Prodigy and DJ John Acquaviva?....or how about Maskaraves in 1992 with Moby, Aphex Twins, DJ Tim of Utah Saints and a shit load of others....

I dunno...all i know is that when i go to clubs now i see a bunch of shit heads...the vibe is gone....

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daffodil
don't worry about it



Registered: Jun 2003
Location: brooklyn, usa

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
K i misjudged you...i apologize...but since u lived those days also...you KNOW that the people in the scene are not the same...u can not deny that....

We can reminice all day long about old parties....how about 1993 The Rave New World Tour with Richie Hawtin, Prodigy and DJ John Acquaviva?....or how about Maskaraves in 1992 with Moby, Aphex Twins, DJ Tim of Utah Saints and a shit load of others....


so i was in middle school then, but thank god it's not the same! you would be bitching that the scene has gone no where since 1992 or whatever the halcyon year was. if it hadn't changed and evolved, it would be absolutely dead by now.

I dunno...all i know is that when i go to clubs now i see a bunch of shit heads...the vibe is gone.... [/QUOTE]

you're older and jaded, i'm still young and i love it all. i'm able to look past the "shit heads" and people who aren't perfect because i love the music, i love to hear and see a dj spin fantastic music. i love to see a crowd react to a good dj.

i think some where along the line y'all have forgotten this is about FUN and ENJOYING yourself. if you don't like where the music has gone, don't listen to it and don't go to the clubs -- if you can't appreciate it anymore, it's over for you. let it go. you may have just grown out of it, or perhaps refused to grow with it. you sound like an overprotective mother who still treats her 18-year-old like a toddler and wonders what happened to her sweet child.

at the risk of becoming a broken record, i'll say it again: why does edm have to be a secret underground culture for it to be good?

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Victor Dinaire
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: The Lost Episode

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
K i misjudged you...i apologize...but since u lived those days also...you KNOW that the people in the scene are not the same...u can not deny that....

We can reminice all day long about old parties....how about 1993 The Rave New World Tour with Richie Hawtin, Prodigy and DJ John Acquaviva?....or how about Maskaraves in 1992 with Moby, Aphex Twins, DJ Tim of Utah Saints and a shit load of others....

I dunno...all i know is that when i go to clubs now i see a bunch of shit heads...the vibe is gone....



its all good bro, those were great days. you will never see lineups like that anymore unless ur going to a massive. they all want too much money.

time for new people (and new artists) to start it up again!


its cool to bump into people from that era as well, come to my loft party after central park

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1
its all good bro, those were great days. you will never see lineups like that anymore unless ur going to a massive. they all want too much money.

time for new people (and new artists) to start it up again!


its cool to bump into people from that era as well, come to my loft party after central park




Ya definatley cool finding people from those days.....i would definatley come to your loft party...but sadly the only 2 people on here that actually like me on here are Pyro aka John and Phazon aka Dennis the Mennise....some people think i am hard headed...lol....

By the way have you heard anything on M. Alig's parol?....i think he is about due for parol....and last i heard from Scotto (Old Shelter's and Limelights lighting engineer) was that he has plans to get back into the scene and bring back the old days style parties....no drugs of course...lol....but thats what i heard....we need more guys like him.....uhm uhm without the murdering though...

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Victor Dinaire
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: The Lost Episode

i think he has at least 3 more years, that would be interesting!

i know scotto, he did lights for me and logic for the haloween parade. i played up 6 ave, it was aweseome

anyways, dont worry man, i invite u and everyone gets along in my place, no bad vibes because we dont tolerate it.

maybe you should talk to the people that r mad and maybe u should apologize to them, it went well for me..

everyone here for the most part is mature and nobody wants trouble

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Enervate
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: ny, NY

you always post and dismiss every opinion but your own as completely unimportant, useless, and insignificant.. i wish i could get myself to read your posts because you obvioulsy wrote a lot

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
EDM Magazines?...who cares....only people who read those are the

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trueness to the scene means more to me then say 50 thousand or whatever they both got for the endorsements....but hey thats me.


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Enervate
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: ny, NY

SERIOUSLY.. you cant have like 4 fans.. fan base needs to grow and find new fans and evolve.. if i didnt hear about pvd or sash and digweed back in the twilo days, i might have thought that charlotte, and amber, and the real mccoy was the best techno had to offer. let these people hear it and decide for themselves, because trance requires too much to fake enjoying it.


quote:
Originally posted by daffodil
so i was in middle school then, but thank god it's not the same! you would be bitching that the scene has gone no where since 1992 or whatever the halcyon year was. if it hadn't changed and evolved, it would be absolutely dead by now.

I dunno...all i know is that when i go to clubs now i see a bunch of shit heads...the vibe is gone....


you're older and jaded, i'm still young and i love it all. i'm able to look past the "shit heads" and people who aren't perfect because i love the music, i love to hear and see a dj spin fantastic music. i love to see a crowd react to a good dj.

i think some where along the line y'all have forgotten this is about FUN and ENJOYING yourself. if you don't like where the music has gone, don't listen to it and don't go to the clubs -- if you can't appreciate it anymore, it's over for you. let it go. you may have just grown out of it, or perhaps refused to grow with it. you sound like an overprotective mother who still treats her 18-year-old like a toddler and wonders what happened to her sweet child.

at the risk of becoming a broken record, i'll say it again: why does edm have to be a secret underground culture for it to be good? [/QUOTE]


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stringfelowhawk
Roboflow



Registered: May 2002
Location: Boston, MA

what is the name of the song in the PvD motorola commercial... I know I've heard it in one of his sets before but can't remember which one to help ID the track


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trancEyes22
but then there's you..



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: district of corruption

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
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haha, sorry it needed to be done...and daffodil made a good point-

tiesto14: why is trance only good when its so underground? just cuz pvd did a motorola commercial doesnt mean hes a sellout. who fucking cares who is a sellout? if a song is good, i'll listen to it. i'll be the first to admit i used to like dj sammy's- heaven....hey, its kinda catchy. does that mean i am a sellout? no. does that mean the song was automatically horrible because pop tweens listened to it too? not necessarily. just dont be so caught up about whos "mainstream" and whos a sellout...

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