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Fast Turtle
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: At The Party House HP: 9302
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Don't trust mixmeister (which nemesis is using to key the songs) to give you the right scales either...I see a lot up there that are major but are listed as the conjugate minor ones.
A scale is a bunch of musical notes that go together by interval (interval being, the distance between notes). There is a different scale for every key, but they all have the same intervals (thus, sounding the same, just modulated up or down a few notes).
The key of a song is usually, but not necessarily, the first note of the song. The exception is when someone uses all the notes of a scale for a given key, but does not start it with that note.
Mixing by a standard chord progression will make things nice if you can work it well enough, but this is impossible to do live, and you need more theory yet to understand that, which I won't get into. 
And by the way...going from C minor to C# minor or E minor to F minor will sound like *ass*. If you want to know what notes with function best together, learn your musical scales. What's the best way to learn the scales? Buy a keyboard, go to a website that explains the notes for all of them, and then practice a lot on your keyboard, going up and down the entire thing for each scale. Tedious work, but it really helps you memorize them (plus helps a lot with your ability to play piano, too!)
Remember: +6 is roughly equal to one semitone, so modify accordingly when mixing. Going beyond +/- 1% of a semitone will start to make the mix sound very bad harmonically, so try to avoid that.
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you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".
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DJ 2Slow
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Beantown, MA
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Someone should start a database website for this, its good stuff. How are you getting the key for thease mixes? Running your mixer into your cromatic tuner? I dont have a cromatic tuner, just a regular one, does anyone know of a good program for the computer that does cromatic tuning? I can run the TT's right into my 828 and into the laptop. I'll key my tunes and post them up here.
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Sep-24-2003 19:22
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dJohn
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2002
Location: 619
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Im not sure if I'm harmonically mixing correctly, but I've been practicing harmonic mixing for the past few sessions and, from reference, it sounds awesome and makes your mixing alot more fun to do...you feel a renewed sense of energy mixing from key to key, and it truly feels like your sets go up and down in accordance to the variancen with the key.
The best way, I found, to mix in key is just to do it by ear...start off with some records that you feel comfortable with, and begin with a 1 record transition...see how that sounds, and keep at it. Then try to spin a whole set while keeping the key intact. You'll notice after a few tries that you will be able to understand what harmonic mixing is about.
Thanks for all the info...kepp it posted!
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Sep-24-2003 20:58 
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Fast Turtle
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: At The Party House HP: 9302
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| quote: | Originally posted by dJohn
Im not sure if I'm harmonically mixing correctly, but I've been practicing harmonic mixing for the past few sessions and, from reference, it sounds awesome and makes your mixing alot more fun to do...you feel a renewed sense of energy mixing from key to key, and it truly feels like your sets go up and down in accordance to the variancen with the key.
The best way, I found, to mix in key is just to do it by ear...start off with some records that you feel comfortable with, and begin with a 1 record transition...see how that sounds, and keep at it. Then try to spin a whole set while keeping the key intact. You'll notice after a few tries that you will be able to understand what harmonic mixing is about.
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Keeping the key intact would basically make the entire mix sound the same, and very boring...It's the key variation that brings movement to your mix.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Masonious
you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".
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Sep-25-2003 22:23
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dJohn
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2002
Location: 619
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Yeah..thats what makes them good, not to mention their track selection
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Oct-01-2003 06:31
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sebjr
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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| quote: | Originally posted by montie
i'm no expert. but i think when you want to step up the emotion and energy of a mix, you would mix in your next song which is in a compatible key with the song being played and which is higher. the opposite is true for stepping down the energy |
sounds like a good theory
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Oct-05-2003 21:39 
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