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Originally posted by netw3rkd Yes, but the word house music has a whole different meaning. Read some music history then post when you find out what the house music genre is about.

Music history has nothing to do with it. Music that puts you into a trance, ie, a "detachment from one's physical surroundings, as in contemplation or daydreaming" is not trance music by definition. Any music can detach one from one's physical surroundings.

^^ true that

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I think so yes, look at examples like

Rank 1 - Symsonic
Chicane - Saltwater
Noa Assembly - Into the Fire

I consider these as trance, has no main kick/bassline yet still euphoric and structured.

I consider Burned with Desire and Composure both to be chilled out trance.

I don't think it's dependent on a 4x4 beat.

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Originally posted by Wretched I consider Burned with Desire and Composure both to be chilled out trance. I don't think it's dependent on a 4x4 beat.

Burned With Desire is chilled breaks, if you're analyzing the beat. It obviously has trancey elements but if you must pigeonhole it that's how I'd go about it...

Let me help you nice people out. If you add a 4/4 kick to Burned With Desire, will it sound like trance? Yes. Thus, this song is trance. Thank you very much, I'm here Fridays through Sundays.

I think that the label 'trance' has more to do with the state of mind associated with listening to the music, as opposed to any common technical features.

The more I think about it, though, the more holes I pick in the above statement. So here's a new one: who really gives a shit?

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Originally posted by Rakoon Let me help you nice people out. If you add a 4/4 kick to Burned With Desire, will it sound like trance? Yes. Thus, this song is trance. Thank you very much, I'm here Fridays through Sundays.

If you add a 4/4 kick to radiohead - street spirit, you'd have a song sounding very close to trance too, coon

Yeah, who cares though.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

Why do trance songs need a kick?

Ambient trance has no kick

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Originally posted by starglider Yes, and the word house means "A structure serving as a dwelling for one or more persons, especially for a family." So is that what house music sounds like? What relevance does that have? Absolutely none. Having said that, I think there is some largely beatless music you could classify as trance for lack of a better term. Lots of "chillout" is based on trance tunes and thus doesn't really fall under any other category. Call it ambient trance if you like? Still, most stuff we call chillout has breakbeat components and should probably be called breaks before anything else. Also, "chillout" is not equivalent to ambient and real ambient is most definitely not trance.

haha

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But these days, producers are crossing the lines and certain people cannot tell the difference. Certain tracks you hear, you think progressive trance or progressive and some have elements of both. I think producers will always be pushing the lines and creating new sounds for us to listen to. I think it also takes someone who has been listening to trance and electronic music, a lot longer than others to tell the differences because it comes with time.

I think it could be. Depends I guess.

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