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mindshooter
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Registered: Nov 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
Do you want a creepy spooky thing ?
Have you ever seen The Exorcist ? well it's based on a true thing that happened in Morocco .


I doubt that....who told you or where did you read it?


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fastmp3
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Registered: Apr 2001
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Originally posted by mindshooter


I doubt that....who told you or where did you read it?


In the beginning of the movie they mention the name of Ouarzazat which is a city in south Morocco (they say the demon came from there)


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Old Post Jul-02-2001 04:40  Morocco
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mindshooter
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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3


In the beginning of the movie they mention the name of Ouarzazat which is a city in south Morocco (they say the demon came from there)


Dont want to be a bad ass but does that necsesarily need to mean that its true?


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fastmp3
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I do believe in demons dude


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Old Post Jul-02-2001 04:51  Morocco
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quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
I do believe in demons dude
'

sure you do
But im just questioning if The Excorcist is based on a true story or not.... Peace m8


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Renegade
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Once I turned on the radio in the middle of one of James Ash's 2-step/garage sets.

I'm still getting counselling for it.

But seriously though, I find it really hard to believe in all this paranormal activity that you're talking about. There's just always a more rational explanation for everything when you look into it a bit deeper.

I mean first of all, ghosts. What exactly are they meant to be? The lost souls of dead people? So what determines whether you become a ghost or not, then? Why do they only ever appear at night? What's their physical composition like? Are they just made of light/electricity? If so, then ghosts appear to break just about every physical law there is. Firstly, light is invisible by itself, it can only be viewed when it illuminates something, and it has no physical structure of it own (even though it does share some charicteristics with both waves and particles). So, therefore, ghosts can't just be transluscent bodies of light just wandering around it human form, because unless the room was unimaginably dusty, or light has somehow eveolved the ability to arrange itself into some three-dimensional body independant of matter and all current human understanding, we would never be able to see them without them directly contradicting what we understand of the physical nature of light itself.

Secondly, if ghosts are the embodiment of our eternal souls, where do these souls come from? We don't have any evidence to suggest that there is any part of our consciousness that can transcend the physical confines of our brain - in fact all evidence completely opposes this view. How does ones mind - or soul - continue to exist once the physical body has wasted away? What if you die as a baby? Do you come back as an infant ghost (or are you doomed to live the rest of your life in heaven as a baby)? Or do you come back as the person you would have grown up into (which would have some pretty worrying consequences for determinism/free will)? Is there some way that we can increase our chances of returning to this Earth as a ghost after we die (maybe if we passed away in some horrific way)?

Thirdly, if they are just bodies of light or electricity, how are they able to move objects and/or make sounds (apart from a low humming sound maybe)? Why do they feel compelled to throw pots and pans around instead of, say, sneaking into a woman's changing room and enjoying themselves? Why do they prat about haunting people for 100's of years when they could do something practical with their immortality? Like build houses for the homeless or something? Why are all ghosts necessarily malevolent? Why aren't there more ghosts like Casper?

I dunno, the concept of ghosts just seem to contradict these basic tennets of common sense. You've got to understand that when you're all alone in your bedroom, in the dark, your brain is deprived of it's major sensory tool - vision. When it is deprived of vision, the brain heightens all the other senses to compensate (including it's own belief system). Thus, the ears may hear some banging sounds within the house (which they wouldn't have picked up on normally) and the brain, in it's heightened state, falsely attributes these sounds to something that isn't really there. It will make false causal connections to ensure that it isn't caught off guard. Thus, if you hear a series of bangs or creaks, the brain will impose a false pattern upon those sounds and deduce that they are, say, footsteps or something, to ensure that you are alert to even the most unlikely threat of danger. If the brain didn't function in this way, and make us imagine dangers in the night, we wouldn't have evolved very far as a species. That is, if we only believed in that which we could see or knew was an immediate danger, we would have been picked off pretty quickly by nocternal lions.

That is why, then, that during the day we are never scared of ghosts. Our brain is calm, and with the aid of vision, has no need to imagine such fantastic things as ghosts because it has faith that the senses on their own are capable of escaping danger.

Okay then, I didn't mean to write so much crap, I'm just trying to ensure that we keep a rational perspective on things here. Carl Sagan's work lives on.

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i love a good post that makes me laugh!
nice one renegade, hope the counselling is going ok, don't worry, you'll get through it!


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ohh, another really spooky thing here:
I got this mail yesterday:

"Hello djdawn,

dj_alfi has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - DJ Dawn's Hardtrance History ID contest - ID and win! - in the Amateur DJs & Music Producers Promotion forum of trancEaddict Forums.

This thread is located at:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...17&goto=newpost"

And when I went there, there was no reply !
How did this happen? Do I get notified, even when he deletes his reply? And does he get that post counted?
spoooooooky...


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bluE_Neon
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Renegade nice story mate, starting 2 think about it, it's really hard 2 explain it. its a theory u have and i think its really reasonable

i rememba my mom sayin something about my grand-granpa. my mom was in a really good relation ship with my dad's granpa. i dont know ne other details, but she said once dat when he died, everytime, well often, when we came 2 my grandma's houze where he died, everytime my mom slept she heard him walken around da houze, walken around da hallway, 1 time she rememba's dat he came in2 da room and sat beside her, started touchen hear hand, and my mom i dont know, she doesn't know herself if she was sleepin at da time or not, could really feel da touch ,da kind shit is creepy 2 me, coz she still get's dos dreamz, right now everytime i do 2 my grandma's i sleep where my mom used 2 sleep, but i haven't had a dream ever like dat yet

mindshooter ur story is really creepy, coz ive already heard similiar one's 2 urs man i mean it, when i read ur story i tripped out!!


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My grandfather's brother used to live in a big house , and in this house , at 6 AM every morning there's an old guy (ghost) who comes and call for the morning prayer ... and if u sleep in his way , he wakes you up to tell you to move and continues his way ...


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Old Post Jul-04-2001 07:30  Morocco
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quote:
1 time she rememba's dat he came in2 da room and sat beside her, started touchen hear hand, and my mom i dont know, she doesn't know herself if she was sleepin at da time or not, could really feel da touch


This may explain a few things.

Old Post Jul-04-2001 09:44  Australia
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bluE_Neon
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tru Renegade, dats why ur statement sounds tru 2 me


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