let us enjoy the psy-trance parties let them enjoy their uplifting trance and commercial or whatever... i would personally prefer not not public psy parties too much.... its nice having unique people there....

I don't think so godsfather
I think Psy parties should be publicized and the police should do exacly what it does with the uplifting parties, keep its fucking smelly butt out of it instead for crashing the parties and perform shamless drug searches on the people who only came to party and have some fun!

Hmmmmm i feel that each genre of trance has its place
wether its commercial or not
The commercial trance is bringing trance to more ppl and that has to be good . . .
if they like the cheese then it may encourage them to search out more variations on the trance scene bringing them to where we are now
Nice decent trance, uplifting / epic / progressive / dark /tech / ambient /goa / psy trance etc
it appears to me that some ppl want trance to stay underground and i do see their point, however if it stays too underground how can it progress much further ?
New ppl to the scene expands the scene and surely will be better for all concerned

I love all genres of Trance, i don't stick to any one genre, if i like it i will play it. everything from Angelic to Dumonde, from Delerium to Tomski, from Nosferatu to Astral Projection.
Astral Projection are superb but then so are many other trance acts of differing genres.
All in all what ever your taste in Trance is i don't think it's fair to slate off another type of trance, each genre adds to the whole and that's what it is all about , the enjoyment of the music

Peace

PS. can we jail that Paliver idiot ?

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good luck!!! by the way its a nice tracl u produced... start producing psy....

I have been producing Psy Trance godsfather...
It's the only thing i've produced alone, Psy trance, I don't upload all of them because the scene now isn't a Psy Trance friendly...

gil! i have a room in the taasiya in jerusalem(dont know if u heard of it) anyway i play in thursday (23+) and every party i play psy trance all night... my room is full all night and people stay like an hour after all the other rooms are closed its kinda nice u should come see it once....

I've heared about this club... all my friends from the army who lives in Jerusalem go there, well, if the Oman 17 doesn't bring any famous DJ or Ssahar Zangilevich plays his Jungel Trance again so everyone leaves the club and go to the Ta'asiya


Anyway, tell me when there's a party over there, give me a ticket and i'll be there


Gil Shwarts

nice track.. very well produced (:
i wanna talk to u..
do u have icq?

Hey Gil, first I'd like to say `Nice Track!'.

Secondly though, I have to disagree with you about what you define as
commercial trance.. Over here, in Canada, Toronto specifically, there's very little main-stream trance played. (Maybe one radio station, but last time I listened it wasn't even full-time.) Anyway, all the `big' clubs are more into house, and progressive house, which always sounds to me like trance without the music...

Anyway, stuff like Tomorrow - Duomonde, and the likes are quite rare, and far from commercial... Commercial music here would be along the lines of ATB (not so much right now), and Sandstorm - Darude (progressive house in my opinion)...

Lately towards the end of the night (generally between 2-3am in licenced clubs) I've heard more `trancey' music, which includes Psy trance, and progressive trance, and what you would call commercial trance.

I think the scene is changing, and I think (at least over here), it's changing more to your liking.. But the audience is being slowly drawn from the current top-40 fans, and old-dance/eurodance fans. (Obviously the music you describe as commercial is much closer to top-40)...

I think this is a good thing... (Meaning the way I see it, the underground scene is not really changing much, or getting bigger or smaller, but the mainstream scene, or whatever you call it is slowly shifting towards more trancey-tunes. What you define as commercial is what's inbetween what they're used to (the crowd), and psy-trance.)

Anyone agree or disagree with me? (If you can even make out my point. hehehe. )

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Originally posted by Gil Shwarts I also said that there are exaptions LiquidX, and as for Astral Projection, can you blame them that they've made a TRANCE track? this is the scene right now, they are trying to fit themself to the scene so they won't lose their publicity, same as Astral, Infected Mushroom are doing the exact same thing, fit themselves to the scene where it is now! and I personally think it sucks man, it sucks bad! but thats only my opinion, also, my 1st post was my opinion and nothing beyond it. I've just said what was on my mind, and whats on my mind is that people should get to know Psy trance better, I think it will make the world a better place I've spoken about Israel because I live there, i've been to other places but the main thing here is that all over the world, epic and uplifting trance took over the scene and underground bands returned to the forests and shit like that. About my thinking that Psy trance is more emotional... again, its my opinion, there are people who really enjoy uplifting trance and Epic tunes... I myself like them but hey, ENOUGH! every 2 minutes a new Epic or Uplifting trance tracks is produced, how much crap can the scene get? I'm sure you've been to a party where Psy trance music was playing... how was that party? (As one who likes epic and uplifting trance tunes, I think I alrady know your answer but I want you to describe the party for me, if you've ever been to one...) Gil Shwarts

Yeah, I have been to PSY and GOA parties, they are kewl, is great to party that music on the beach with those fire things moving all around, under the Balck sky with the stars all over the place, I been there, is very energetic music, and yes, it does get people together as all the other trance genres, but is different still, like the progressive sound, many like it, makes them feel different, Epic and Uplifting, is anothe whole different feeling , is more of a JOY and so powerfull that brings tears to many ppls eyes..
GOA and PSY is full energy and joy, I like those parties, never said nothing bad about it, is more like ritual parties, if you know what I mean, wich I know you do. I have a friend who spinnss GOA and PSY trance, who also has done an album, wich has gone recognized as far as Germany, the name is PSYCHEDELIC SHIVA, I have nothing against it, but like you said, is your opinion, but dont bash other tracks, like the Flight 643, and artists just for been succesfull, and is what people have chosen, leave the GOA and PSY for the outdoor such as beache, forests, and full moons.

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