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Well.. i usually love tiesto.. he makes gr8 music, and he has sets beyond perfect.... but when i heard Magik 7.. i was hella disapointed... he had a lack choice of trax... and i really really didn't like it... but then i heard the club eau second year anniversary... OMG!!.. defenatlly one of his best sets this year!

agreed. magik 7 sucks. the tracks are good just not his style. especially following up on magik 6! magik 6 was epic greatness, epic trance at it's best (at least the tracks he could have chosen from for this album, ie the latest tracks) and then these songs were just like, ugh, no!

but then you said: C'mon... dont be stupid.. he hasn't played this tune in ages now!!...

uhm...i was told by a friend who saw him @ the Texas Zenfest June 9, 2001, he played the track that night. end of story.

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There's a lot of variance in a DJ when he plays live...

...best example I have is DJ Jean. Was at one trance gathering, and he seemed so unmotivated, he actually used the mic "Bass in the place, people!"
However, after DJ Jean LIVE! @ TranceEnergy, I gotta say the man is closer to a god! He went back to his old day DMC style mixing! He knew those tracks in and out! And what BPM was he playing at? Not 140, that's for sure! Best set I've heard in ages...

...with regards to Tiesto, he and Lars Holte of 'In Trance We Trust' fame (amongst others) played in my booth a while back... and Lars was definately the better mixer. I think most people appreciated his track choice better as well, but that's got nothing to say when they both had the same stuff with them... (or maybe it does?)

Tiesto isn't a 'creative' mixer to such a degree that some other DJ's are, but hey, trance DJ's aren't usually known as former DMC World Champs either! (That's why they put the T in trance! Or whatever...)

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Heehee... forgot to say that Tiesto isn't really up my alley at the mo either... as DJ or Producer... I loved and respect his earlier work, which was what makes us TA's, but with Flight 643? I could've played that high synth part on my gear when I was 11, honestly!
(I've worked with people like DJ Prince & Justin K. with 'Got To Have', which I've been told was No.1 on the US Dance Chart for several weeks and is one of Klubbheads favorite tracks, featured on their Desire double album from last year).

Ah well, everyone has a right to change their style...

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im sorry, what exactly do you mean by DMC - style mixing?
simply scratches and cuts and stuff?

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Instant crossovers with the crossfader, and toying with it...

...his transition into Storm - Time To Burn was amazing!

There were a good number of tracks which I can't remember, but he slowed the record down. At some point he actually stopped it and started it again whilst flicking the crossfader...ya gotta hear it!
He played with the decks all through his set! Inserted parts here and there, totally unlike Jean...

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The trouble with Tiesto is that the tracks he plays don't seem to compliment each other too well. Somebody like Sasha or Timo will play the tracks off one another so to speak, creating a rollercoaster of emotions. Whereas with Tiesto it's all one long high. He just plays one "hands in the air" track after another until they lose all meaning.

Saying that, I saw him at Homelands and the place went off, so I think maybe his style is more suited to a live crowd (which in all honesty is what being a DJ is all about) than listening at home.

I just think his sets are sounding too much like the "Best Trance Anthems In The World Ever part 19.7" CD's that are always coming out; i.e. just a load of floor-fillers mixed together.

Last edited by Spad on Jul-06-2001 at 12:15

Hey whats wrong with Flight 643? I got nothing agaisnt it, to me it still sounds a lot like Tiësto, I've noticed that many producers just stick to one style, i.e. ATB...Darude...BT... But then Tiësto has these tracks that are completely different. Compare, A Funky Ass Track and Fly and Cyberia.

spad, i do believe you've hit the nail on the head!

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Originally posted by day_for_night good lord! tiesto is a decent producer, THAT'S IT! other than that, the man is mediocre behind the decks, with a lacklustre style and so-so mixing skills. go listen to pappa, howells, s&d, warren, deep dish, seaman, ect... and *then* tell me tiesto even comes close to the talent than any of the above have. the man is way over rated, plain and simple. ohhh, and i'm sorry, but magik 1 thru 6 were and are pure cheese. in search of sunrise two was his only album even worth listening to (still boring as hell, i have freinds who can make better mixed tapes). ohhh, and ferry corsten sucks too (cause i haven't pissed off enough people on the board already )

i dont think he's overrated but he does have skillzz i feel da same way as u man about other dj's coz every1 lately is talken about Tiesto, only 1 Tiesto, DA TRANCE MASTER, blablabla...certainly he's got skillz, but not da best..i luv Nick Warren as well, from listening 2 his GU series and a couple of livesets, they certainly blow Tiesto's sets, im serious and Warren is not a rated dj as well, which i think he deserves a lot of respect in da world same for Seaman GU series 2 me r da best collections of trance/house/techno/breakbeats tunez

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Originally posted by Cosmo K There's a lot of variance in a DJ when he plays live... ...best example I have is DJ Jean. Was at one trance gathering, and he seemed so unmotivated, he actually used the mic "Bass in the place, people!" However, after DJ Jean LIVE! @ TranceEnergy, I gotta say the man is closer to a god! He went back to his old day DMC style mixing! He knew those tracks in and out! And what BPM was he playing at? Not 140, that's for sure! Best set I've heard in ages...

finally some1 realizes something about dis sick dj and its not Jean bro its Dean, they put his or maybe he changed himself name under Jean 4 a couple of years now, i dont know why, but who cares, its safe ...ne wayz da set has a 160BMP and indeed da set does fucken rock!!

take a look at TTF series da 1's he mixed man POUNDING basslines, non-stop hard trance, i think da hardest trance ever, with DJ Scoot Project and others

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blueneon is correct, nick warren BLOWS Tiesto away.
way out west is in-fucking-credible.

AND his djing skills and selection is unbuhleeeeeevable, as pete tong would say.

check out the GUs and then dare to argue.
seaman's just below nick warren, but he's right there as a dj

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