Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1
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Originally posted by torontotrance
finally tiesto has woke up...rofl...sampling is correct when done correctly...like paying the artist (NOT LIKE THAT THIEF JOSH WINK!...!)....hell it made Norman Cook a multi millionaire.
right on. sampling is 100% legit in our times and scene. Hardly any tonal melodies out there are original, this is the 21st century.
i think Traffic is a minimalist gem with a very unique vibe all the way through. this kind of production is what makes tiesto my favorite musician of our times. i know some people get offended that i constanly repeat this, but i can't help it. i'm not looking for flames, this is just my personal appreciation and my 2 cents....
Sep-29-2003 01:15
DaveSZ
When The Levee Breaks
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: ATX
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Originally posted by Lucka
IMHO...Traffic of Tiesto it isn't a very great track...
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
"Traffic" is a fine track, but ,....
Traffic is a great tune by Tiesto, but definitely not his best. I can pick a few tracks from his In My Memory CD that I like more .... for example, Flight 643 & Suburban Train
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Sep-29-2003 01:39
torontotrance
I hath returned
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto
quote:
right on. sampling is 100% legit in our times and scene. Hardly any tonal melodies out there are original, this is the 21st century.
Actually sampling is an art form....ask coldcut..tho they never paid the artists they sampled (or some..who knows)...then again...to them it was an art form. Sean Deason is a fucking genius but I think people need to stop pretending that certain artists never sample work or never borrow sounds. If done correctly, it makes for great tracks and happy people....not like josh wink and his sampling (COUGH*THIEF*COUGH). Look what sampling did for norman cook...he is a household name.
Sep-29-2003 01:59
Pio
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1
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Originally posted by torontotrance
Actually sampling is an art form....ask coldcut..tho they never paid the artists they sampled (or some..who knows)...then again...to them it was an art form. Sean Deason is a fucking genius but I think people need to stop pretending that certain artists never sample work or never borrow sounds. If done correctly, it makes for great tracks and happy people....not like josh wink and his sampling (COUGH*THIEF*COUGH). Look what sampling did for norman cook...he is a household name.
an artform indeed, even in the academic world. Canadian composer John Oswald was sued by the RIAA and Michael Jackson back in 1989 for his CD Plunderphonics, which is all made with samples of pop tunes. i think the CD is genius, but now he's not even allowed to sell it commercially. however, how do you know where to draw the line? that's an open ended question in legal terms. composers have been at least quoting or borrowing melodies for centuries, is that legit? just like van gogh would do his own remix of a painting by Rembrandt, should that be illegal too? i don't think so, it's just a 're-interpretation'. one thing is quoting and re-interpreting a melody or an idea or a theme like Tiesto's doing with Traffic and another thing is to steal. it's hard to be objective when we're talking about art though.
Sep-29-2003 02:21
CrackedLcd
Stuff Dreams R Made Of
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: With Fungirls In Maryland
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Originally posted by Djeebie
It's a great track at parties. Very energetic. It's not exactly a song to listen to when you're at home. It's a true party record just like Flight 643 is.
I could not have been said better. It's not the greatest track, but it gets u pumped up at parties.
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: The Seventh City (New Jersey)
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Originally posted by torontotrance
Look what sampling did for norman cook...he is a household name.
puff daddy
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Sep-29-2003 04:37
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Originally posted by Sirocco
puff daddy
ahahaha, staright up, ahaha
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Sep-29-2003 12:28
torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto
Actually the first people to really get in trouble for sampling was double dee and steinski and they used samples without permission and got into a bunch of nasty lawsuits.
Sep-29-2003 14:10
Ste
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Outer Dementia
tiesto copies another tune.
a good one though...
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I've heard this track at home and clubbing. Ow great difference! Well, for listening at home no it's a great tune but when this summer I was at Amnesia and Tiesto played this tune... all the clubbers started to jump was amazin'!!
So absolutely agree with TA's who said the difference of listening this track at home and at a party.