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Originally posted by ahlamalek pure BS, thats exactly the places where you wouldn't want to work at the first place. paper-pushing-bs-talking people who look good but are zero technically.

we dont hire people on a whim. One of our employees is an XML guru with no formal training yet was asked to speak at the world XML conventions in Germany (hes fluent in german) australia, france etc...

And please, there is obviously more to the hiring process than that. We didnt become insanely successful by hiring used car salesmen.

you also said

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that they have a 4 year degree. he MIGHT look at what college its from, and the major he could give a shit less about. Its about what youve done, who you know, and length of experience. But even more important than that is how you present yourself during the interview. Thats it. Thats the whole thing. Anywhere that wants a CompSci degree is a place you dont want to work at.

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Originally posted by Orbax we dont hire people on a whim. One of our employees is an XML guru with no formal training yet was asked to speak at the world XML conventions in Germany (hes fluent in german) australia, france etc... And please, there is obviously more to the hiring process than that. We didnt become insanely successful by hiring used car salesmen.

of course, but I bet that the guy was solid at university with compsci. try explaining the basics of xml to someone who never heard of how to present data in the wonderful world of object abstraction, something you only learn in university.

someone absolutely needs a bachelor in compsci with all the "theory bullshit" that most student call, then its easier to specialize and be ready for the many changes ahead.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek the wonderful world of object abstraction, something you only learn in university.

bullshit, there are so many things you could learn on your own that unis don't even have in their courses, object abstraction included (even though it is in the courses)



anyway, from all this we can conclude that cs majors smell (or that i need another shower)

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Yo... Im a sophomore as a computer science major at York College of Pennsylvania.

Courses I need:
English Composition
Writing About Literature
Human Communications
Information Literacy
Calculus 1
2 credits of gym
Either BIO or CHEM or PHYSICS
Calculus 2
Discrete Mathematics
Differential Equations
Probability and Statistics
Software Engineering & Des.
Programming Language Des.
Social and Prof. Issues
Analysis of Algorithms
Operating Systems
Senior Software Project 1
Intro to Programming and Software 1
Intro to Programming and Software 2
Intro to Networks
Hardware/Software Architecture
Database Management Systems

I also have to take other CS electives as well as electives not related to my major.

Hope this gives u an idea of the classes u might have to take with a CS major...

Siph0n

yeah be careful if u're a CS major..i am too...i've heard that the 2 fields that still hold promise are security and biotech..but u're in CS and already have a networking background so focus on security...but its true that its really tuff finding a job, and in a couple yrs. time, im sure theres gonna be a glut of security professionals so watch out...best is to get really good at one thing, but make sure its not the only thing u know...get a minor in sumthing else like mechanical engn, or maybe even finance to be on the safe side...and a bachelor's doesnt mean that much these days

I did a BTEC In computer Science for two years then i did my CompTIA Network + Course, which was solid, 2 years later im still in the wrong job,

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through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us will-
ing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert."

Anyone of you wanna tell me how computer science relates to biotechnology?

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Originally posted by whiskers bullshit, there are so many things you could learn on your own that unis don't even have in their courses, object abstraction included (even though it is in the courses)

anyways, i don't know you personnaly, but from the people i've talked to at work who learned "object" on their own, they suck major balls, its not an easy subject.

also there's an infinity of subject in computer science and of course they can't show you everything. Thats why there's a masters and phd for those who want to go farther and learn about the things you really want to know about...

if you were reffering to specific implemented technologies not seen in school ( let say language abc instead of the hotter and new xyz language) then you're defienatly not at the right place. A bachelor is for general concepts and theories, not specific technologies.

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Originally posted by djSlain ur all making me nervous ::scared::

why are you doing CS? For the job, or because it is the thing that you want to do?

if for the latter, then keep doing it. If not, quit now.


About college:
I was a CS major and there was a good amount of math required. Not so sure about science. It may have just been part of my EE major *shrugs*

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Originally posted by djSlain simple and to the point: I'm going for a major in Computer Science just to add to the Resume as i'm already well into computer networking and various computer languages. I'm currently going to a community college and i plan to transfer to a university later. I would just like to compare the classes required to get this major. I'm looking at the transfer sheet and i'm seeing things from chemistry to various levels in calculus to system analysis and other things. so, any help?

You planning to go to UCSD? Check out their site for transfer reqs.

ya, most likely UCSD or SDSU. I'm gearing for SDSU at the moment for costs, and i've seen their requirements and they seem to set me in a better path. Plus, they have a 24/7 library which would really help if i had trouble doing the math courses.

i've pondered on the responses i've been getting, but it just seems like of a let down since i've always wanted, (for most of my life) to get into computer science and now i'm getting feedback which totally demolishes my outlook. O well, i guess it's good that i love math. the science classes are gonna be a stresser tho.
I guess out of coincidence, my english teacher's major assignment for the semester is to research careers. I guess i'll find some info on the employment of computer scientists. hehe, i think i already filled out all the requirements to be at cisco, lol.

anyways, thanx all

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy drop out....i had to after 1 year of that shit....fuck comp sci worst mistake ever...should have never copied my best friends College/program application sheet back in highschool lol

I wonder why you droped out. If you cant figgure out the application. Lets take one of the hardest science majors. TARD.

The secret to computer science is you have to love the work. You have to want to go home a program for hours. If you dont like it you wont make it.