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Originally posted by T:REBEL I own the Sony 700s and think they're excellent. Both headphones have almost the same specs, but I personally like the 700s 'cuz I do one-side monitoring. It's true that the Pioneer cups are smaller, but you really can't go wrong with either one. If you have more cash, go for the HDJ-1000. If not, go with the Sony's. Simple as that. As for wear and tear, it's all up to the owner. All headphones will break down eventually. I've had my 700s for almost over a year now and I don't have any problems with it.

Actually, wear and tear is only one of the many reasons many here dont like the V700's.. start reading the huge gigantic headphone thread...

And check out some headphones like the HD280 Pro from Sennheiser, and the AKG K271 Studio..

gluegun: what would you recommend out of the Sony 700's, the Pioneer HDJ1000's, the Sennheiser HD280, or the Sennheiser HD28, and why?

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Well, are you in Australia or are you Stateside?

I generally don't recommend the V700DJ's.

What's your maximum budget?

How much isolation do you feel you need?

Would you want a more "DJ" sound or a more accurate sound? If you can learn to beatmatch with hihats, which is safer on your ears (you don't have to turn a good, set of high-isolation headphones up as much), I'd get a set of good dj/studio headphones with accurate sound. If, however, you are completely committed to the "BOOM BOOM" midbass style of mixing, and unwilling to try something different, than that limits your options. Studio headphones will give you ACCURATE bass, the quickness of which can speed up your beatmatching... unless you are one of those who can't or won't use them at all...

I'm in the states mate. I'm aussie though lol.

maximum budget... hmm I guess I don't want to spend over $150...

I'm not sure how much isolation I'll need to be honest.. I guess a fair amount but it's not overly important to me.

I prefer accurate bass to BOOM BOOM BOOM, and though I'll be using them for DJing primarily at home, and perhaps (fingers crossed) later in louder venues... I'd still prefer a more DJ/studio type product as you suggested.

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I have tested all 3 (sennheiser hd-280 pro, sony 700's and the new pioneers) within the last month. I myself own Sennheiser hd-280 pro's.. but for beatmatching nothing can beat the new pioneers.. so..
1'st place Pioneer
1 1/2 place: Sennheiser
10th place: Sony :P

i've used them both. *in clubs* and i can tell you that either will work just fine for beatmatching. if you can beatmatch with one pair you'll do just as well with the other. if you think you can beatmatch fine with one but not the other then it's psychosomatic. as for build quality i would say the pioneer are built a little better, especially if you're a bit rough with your cans. me personally, knowing how important they are, i take just as good care with my headphones as i do my carts or vinyl. every pair of headphones will break. the sonys do tend to break a bit sooner. i know people who go through a pair of 700s every 6 months but have used the 1000s for the same amount of time and are still just fine. if you take good care of your phones they'll both last for some time so it's really just a matter of personal preference. also take a look at technics headphones. my friend barry has been using his for every event he's played at for over a year and they're fine. he plays his fidget event, radio show, clubs events and even uses them in the studio with great frequency and they're still going strong. the ear cup is a bit small but then again he's a small guy. i've used them and they work fine. really, just buy the pair that are most comfortable fitting and you'll be laughing. personally i use the 1000s. cheers.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ I'm in the states mate. I'm aussie though lol. maximum budget... hmm I guess I don't want to spend over $150... I'm not sure how much isolation I'll need to be honest.. I guess a fair amount but it's not overly important to me. I prefer accurate bass to BOOM BOOM BOOM, and though I'll be using them for DJing primarily at home, and perhaps (fingers crossed) later in louder venues... I'd still prefer a more DJ/studio type product as you suggested.

I'd suggest the AKG K271 Studio or the Sony MDR-V6 or the Sony MDR-7506. All good studio headphones. The V6 and the 7506 are the same headphone, btw.

thanks GG may I ask, what is the downside of the HDJ1000 or the sennheisers?

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ thanks GG may I ask, what is the downside of the HDJ1000 or the sennheisers?

After just over a month of owning the HDJ-1000s and using them extensively. I can say that in my opinion, so far the only downside to them is the price.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ thanks GG may I ask, what is the downside of the HDJ1000 or the sennheisers?

In a word, I'd say, "boomier, less accurate bass" and say they weren't designed to have the frequency response of studio phones -- ESPECIALLY the HDJ1000...

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Originally posted by Gluegun In a word, I'd say, "boomier, less accurate bass" and say they weren't designed to have the frequency response of studio phones -- ESPECIALLY the HDJ1000...

Man. Going by the specs, the HDJ-1000s had better frequency response than any other set of phones I found when I was headphone shopping. Which ones were you referring to? I thought I looked at all of them.

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Originally posted by physe Man. Going by the specs, the HDJ-1000s had better frequency response than any other set of phones I found when I was headphone shopping. Which ones were you referring to? I thought I looked at all of them.

So where is this GRAPH of the frequency response that specifically shows a flatness across the board and no midbass hump? You should know that you can't judge a headphone on unelaborated frequency response... the "5 hz to 30 khz" is pure bullshit... and besides, there is no real "Ideal" frequency response or way to measure headphones... Headphone.com's measurements come close, but we're a long way off...