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Originally posted by psychosomatica I believe they advertise no bandwidth limit... to differentiate themselves from Bell.

its funny that people are still under this impression... bell gave their bandwidth limit the ol' heave ho at the start of summer so i'm a satisfied sympatico customer, =P.

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Your friend should be put on probation, Unlimited means unlimited within reason. Go into a restaurant that advertises something that is you can eat, do you think you can walk in there and ask for 20 racks of ribs to go? No fucking way. If he is downloading that much in a month, he's hogging bandwidth that can be going to other people who don't have it so good. The more people like him that totally abuse the service the more people get screwed with poor connections and poor customer service. These ISP's do have finite budgets you know, so if they have to spend more money on a bigger pipe, that money has to come from somewhere. That somewhere is usually customer support.

Don't get my wrong, I download a fair bit sometimes to but if he has that much traffic going through his system he's downloading basicly every pirated game and movie. I don't have to tell you how much he's ripping those industries off.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL A buddy of mine has recently been warned from Roger's about his downloading habits. He is the top 1% that uses all the bandwith and he is on probation for 7 days. He downloads about 4 to 5 GIGs a night. You think Roger's is being a bunch of cheap ass's or is it my friend's fault for this ? P.S He's been downloading like this for almost 2 yrs now. This POLL will be sent to Roger's when it's done, so pls vote seriously and wisely Thanks Guys!

By law, your friend can download as much as he wants. even if he's capped at a certain ammount of information, any excess information he downloads he just has to pay for. What roger's is doing is totally out of their jurisdiction. I think your friend should just pay up this months fee and quit rogers. i heard LOOK is very good.

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Originally posted by rahvin Your friend should be put on probation, Unlimited means unlimited within reason. Go into a restaurant that advertises something that is you can eat, do you think you can walk in there and ask for 20 racks of ribs to go? No fucking way. If he is downloading that much in a month, he's hogging bandwidth that can be going to other people who don't have it so good. The more people like him that totally abuse the service the more people get screwed with poor connections and poor customer service. These ISP's do have finite budgets you know, so if they have to spend more money on a bigger pipe, that money has to come from somewhere. That somewhere is usually customer support. Don't get my wrong, I download a fair bit sometimes to but if he has that much traffic going through his system he's downloading basicly every pirated game and movie. I don't have to tell you how much he's ripping those industries off.

It doesn't matter. As long as Roger's doesn't have a by law about how much info you download, they can't tell you anything. No internet company can cap you as to how much information you download. all they can do is charge additional fees and they can only do that if its within the contract.

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That's a wack of bandwidth...damn!

But if someone's going to run a server, then they should be charged server rates; that's why they have 'business' rates...

Roger's isn't being cheap, they're providing a service.
If someone wants to push the limits of a non-business package is that's Roger's fault?
That's just business...

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Originally posted by TheDemon By law, your friend can download as much as he wants. even if he's capped at a certain ammount of information, any excess information he downloads he just has to pay for. What roger's is doing is totally out of their jurisdiction. I think your friend should just pay up this months fee and quit rogers. i heard LOOK is very good.

Actually, I think look.ca has a specified bandwidth limit.

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Originally posted by TheDemon It doesn't matter. As long as Roger's doesn't have a by law about how much info you download, they can't tell you anything. No internet company can cap you as to how much information you download. all they can do is charge additional fees and they can only do that if its within the contract.

I don't see what the big deal is here. Even those of you slaggin rogers as cheap asses contradict yourselves.

Rogers is simply warning him that if his level of usage continues, he'll be put on probation. This likely means he'll still have normal service, but monitored to make sure he's not bandwidth hogging. Only if his disgusting lvl of usage continues will he be charged any extra fees, and that seems to be quite a few steps away from happening.

As a company, they seem to be handling this fairly, and with class. It's not like they gave him a huge bill for breaking the contract and threatened him with payup or be cut off.

If he wants the level of service he seems to need/use, then he should upgrade. There is no way he can be using that much with normal household usage, unless he's done some serious tweaking to his conection to get such a fast downstream... the average movie file is 700,000kb, so he's dling say 3-5 movies a day.. a bit much...

(I'd like to know which filesharing prog he's using though heh)

just wondering...

WTF ARE YOU PPL DOWNLOADING??? 5 GIGS A NIGHT??

like i can understand maybe 1 or 2 gigs a night (livesets, movies, mp3s) but seriously 5 gigs is way too much... especially since it's everynight... I don't think rogers is a good company, but in this case, it is not their fault... i mean... 5 gigs is a lot

5 gigs a night? For $45 a month?

That doesn't make you very profitable to Rogers, so you really shouldn't be surprised about any probation.

Also, the term "unlimited" is loosely used by rogers' advertising. It only means that you have unlimited CONNECTIVITY to the internet - not unlimited bandwidth (which, btw, does not exist ANYWHERE, no matter what the adverts say - there is a bandwidth limit to everything on the net.)


I do have a distaste for Roger's "unofficial" BW limits, which they never seem concrete on. But Cie la vie - Roger's AUP that YOU signed up for allows them to change thier policies at any time.

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I think that 4-5 GB in a night is a little excessive, and I could see how as a corporation in business to profit, can place such a probation on him. Just out of curiosity, what is he downloading that takes up so much bandwidth. I can understand an occasional day where you approach such a large capacity, but to do it everynight (there is only so many live sets, movies, and games)?

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee for 40+ bucks a month just for their sloww ass "high speed" connection, ur friend deserves the right to use as much bandwidth as he wants to... they need to upgrade their servers cos they aint keeping up with the increse in new users relative to the load their servers can handle. PS. tell ur friend to check teh internet cotnract to see if there is any clause which says tehy can do that to him. if not, he could sue them for all taht matters or demand compensation for their actions

There's a clause that says you are not to abuse the system, yet they do not tell us what is abusing it. Basically they can do what they want. FUKIN ROGERS!!!