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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit cigs are for the weak minded if your going to do something bad.. might as well get a good kick out of it im intrested to learn more about this.. ive never tried acid.. so i dont know the effects of that.. i wonder how the come down is.. and if it gives you as much of a boost as speed??

sure think Ultra Magnus....

I actually enjoy smokes. But yes, I'm addicted and it is stupid, but I'm working on it. At least with smokes it doesn't kill you within a few minutes.....you can do it for awhile and then realise how stupid it is. With E or this new Super Pill, you might not have more than one opportunity.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 sure think Ultra Magnus.... I actually enjoy smokes. But yes, I'm addicted and it is stupid, but I'm working on it. At least with smokes it doesn't kill you within a few minutes.....you can do it for awhile and then realise how stupid it is. With E or this new Super Pill, you might not have more than one opportunity.

Since when can E kill you within a few minutes?
If it kills you within that time span then damn sorry, but it ain't E you took

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Originally posted by LoCa Since when can E kill you within a few minutes? If it kills you within that time span then damn sorry, but it ain't E you took

ok....a matter of hours then.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 ok....a matter of hours then.

Hmmm don't know what you've read about E but it can't actually kill you unless you:
a) take a bad pill (at which point it isnt E anymore)
b) don't drink enough (even tho i've heard of people who lasted a whole night
drinking just one bottle of water... not generally recommended tho)
c) mix it with other drugs (at which point it isn't the E that killed you but
the mix of drugs)

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but the risk of getting a bad pill says it all...you can't trust anyone.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 but the risk of getting a bad pill says it all...you can't trust anyone.

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that's not true at all. wtf are you on.

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Originally posted by 'mju:zik ] that's not true at all. wtf are you on.

there's no point even arguing with you guys about this. You're all so blindly oblivious (shall we say OBTUSE) about the dangers of drugs and you'll foolishly sit there and tell anyone that there's nothing dangerous about them at all.....when in fact, any smart person knows there are risks.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 but the risk of getting a bad pill says it all...you can't trust anyone.

actually that's not true. If you're going to risk it and buy a pill in a club
from a random dealer, then it's your tragedy if you take a bad pill.
But there are ways to test it, and ways to get pills beforehand. It's a matter
of trusting your dealer and through word of mouth really.There's always good
pills out there, just don't be stupid and risk getting a crap one by buying from
someone you don't know.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 I don't think it's a good idea to try it, or any other possibly life ending drug (no...not weed) ever. period!

Why's that? So you don't get addicted? So you don't die?

This may be beyond the imagination of some, but drugs in a much broader concept can teach people to accept and be comfortable with emotions and experiences they would not be otherwise. Drugs are "mind-expanding" and I would bet that each user has been introduced to something new as a result of dosing *whatever* drug they choose to. Naturally, these new experiences include the good and the bad, the risks and the assurances, but that goes for any new experience.

There is an obvious issue of balance here, but there is with everything. You cannot live your life in a shoebox. There is a time and place for everything, and many many people (most, even) have gone through phases with drugs at some point or another. Many of them don't share these experiences with too many people, so you may think that only *some* people have tried drugs, while many have not. I hate to break it to you, but drug use is like masturbating for some - they feel guilty and hide it from others.

My point here is that experimenting with substances can be life-enriching if done in moderation.

I can certainly say that during my year(s) of heavier drug use, I learned a lot about myself, my limits, and my friends. I became close(r) to a lot of people when we were high and that probably would not have happened otherwise.

Fact is, you're more likely to die from stepping out of your front door in the morning than you are dosing an E. So enjoy your youth and live a little, already!

Skipper...sorry, but i just don't buy that argument. I'm not anti-drugs...I couldn't care less if all of you do E at a party, but it's just not for me, and I'm not going to recommend that someone go out and drop a pill. I tried it twice and it scared the absolute fuck out of me. I prefer to be clean and sober at a party, as I take everything in better that way. I'm not even a big drinker really...though when I do drink, I usually drink myself silly.

I just wish pro drug people wouldn't be so obtuse about the dangers from chemical drugs like E and whatever else is out there. At least admit that they are dangerous and CAN KILL YOU. That said, dropping a bill is a lot safer than shooting up with heroine or smoking crack (ironically, the American goverment tends to ignore that problem, focusing on drugs that are predominant in the electronic music scene). But for me, it's just not worth it.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Skipper...sorry, but i just don't buy that argument. I'm not anti-drugs...I couldn't care less if all of you do E at a party, but it's just not for me, and I'm not going to recommend that someone go out and drop a pill. I tried it twice and it scared the absolute fuck out of me. I prefer to be clean and sober at a party, as I take everything in better that way. I'm not even a big drinker really...though when I do drink, I usually drink myself silly. I just wish pro drug people wouldn't be so obtuse about the dangers from chemical drugs like E and whatever else is out there. At least admit that they are dangerous and CAN KILL YOU. That said, dropping a bill is a lot safer than shooting up with heroine or smoking crack (ironically, the American goverment tends to ignore that problem, focusing on drugs that are predominant in the electronic music scene). But for me, it's just not worth it.

ok you're obviously not very educated. you don't know that you can test the chemical compounds of any pill you buy? it's when you buy one random pill that you get in trouble. If you buy, say, ten pills at a better price, you can afford to get something to test one of the pills with, or all if you know how. if you know your body you're always fine (by always i mean 99 percent, because even legal drugs have a death risk). so do some research before preaching.. eh?