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Originally posted by TranceGeek for that dude up there... are you sure thats wise, resting your teeth on your tongue?! i know enough people that cut pieces of their tounge off! none of them chewed gum... now they all do...

You would think, but seriously...it works for me. I think I am always thinking dont bite on your tongue and that keeps me from chewing so damn much.

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Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness btw.. there is also speed, k, pcp, pma, and bzp(whatever the hell that is) found in e.. stuff that should not be in the e u are taking.

dont forget dxm and mda.

And that is all if the dude making the batch does it right. He could have good intentions, but a little error in the chemistry will make MDMA into something completly different!
It is an exact science to make this drug...and very easily messed with if u remember your high school chem classes(u all did the same experiment, but how many got exact same results?)

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let me just clarify one thing for all of you... E is not considered a pure mdma pill!!! E is a mix of 2 or more drugs, although somtimes, rarely tho, it can contain pure mdma! so what you call E in most cases has no mdma... as for mda, its a close relative of mdma... it lasts longer than mdma, has a longer effect, more tracers but doesnt have that loving feeling... so mda isnt all that bad as you all seem to describe it as...

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Originally posted by Trance Goodie My jaw kills, anyone have a good remedy or something to avoid feeling like I have lock jaw for three days after doing E?

thats only in the beginning...If you eat more and more, you;ll get used to it... Just take a couple per month (like 4/5 in an night0 That will do the trick(...it helps with me!!)

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Originally posted by Paul Griffiths 1 UMMMMMMMMMMM....BIG FUCKIN UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... Of course there is Coke in certain pills! What the hell are you all talking about? ...I've had them, and so have plenty of other people?!?! When I do decide to delve in Ecstasy we have friends in high places (sounds cheesy yes I admit but it's true), and we can pretty much have a choice of whatever. Haven't ALL YOU guys heard of smacky and coky pills? Smack is Heroin Right and coke is cocaine? Correct me if I'm wrong please... I don't know where all of you guys have been, but MDMA isn't the only thing in Ecstasy.

I'm sorry but you are wrong, coke and heroin in pressed pills is an urban myth, nothing more. If someone hands you a pill and says it has heroin or coke they are bullshiting you or don't know what they are talking about.

Its funny, but I know people in 'high' places, mainly I have the expert opinions on pretty well anything drug related at my disposal. Let me tell you this is all just BS, E pills are most often mdma and something like amphetamines. Theres also the rarer pills with mda, but from what I hear those are becoming pretty damn rare.

As for the clenching, it is the mdma, mda, amphetamins, if you've ever taken pure mdma you'll see that you clench a lot

As for dealers being so bad, without them we wouldn't have access to drugs. Yes there are shady dealers, but the ones I know are good people who do this because they and their friends use drugs.

We can't attack the people supplying them, if we have a problem with supply why are we demanding them? And like was said by j-spot, making mdma, mda is a thing that involves a lot of chemistry skills, so no moron could do it, you have to have brains

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well said thor!!! well said..

Oh yeah, the main point that I forgot about this cocaine/heroin myth is a simple basic known fact. Why spend money on expensive drugs that arent that orally effective anyway?

Cocaine/Heroin are way less effective orally, especially with heroin. So that reason alone should tell you that these E heroin/coke pills are just urban legend because they don't make sense in reality.

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@ my post secondary school we did NOT *wink wink nudge nudge* do some tests on drugs that were NOT bought illegally to see what substances were not in them *u know what I mean*

So in the weed we tested, we found a chemical very similar to bleach, and we also found traces of Cocaine.(TRUE STORY) As it turns out this weed gave an amazing high, and ppl kept coming back. They werent addicted to the weed, they were coke heads. Putting something addictive into your drug like that(ie cutting your weed with coke) can make u more profit than it costs.

In the E we tested, we found Drano(which is why I keep saying I dont want Drano in my E) amongst other chemicals including caffeine, and a small(according to chem prof, not enuf for an average 180 pound man to feel anything) amount of MDA.

Thats my experience.

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The thing is, with drugs like weed you often get connections through friends. So if a dealer is doing something shady like that he'll get found out and lose his customers. Don't forget with E, its a big difference, a lot of those dealers have one time customers at raves, bars, etc....

The traditional dealers that sell to friends and it spreads out from there are not doing shit like that.

I'm curious, what chemical did they find in the weed similar to bleach? And in what trace amounts? Same with the coke, how much was found?

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umm...I dont remember quantities. These tests we did were very illegal and the prof layed his ass on the line. It was weird..being in a lab with a lookout @ the door in case another prof came by to visit or something. what we did was roll a joint, and use that amount for our standard (this is how much u would get per ___) As for the bleach like chemical it had a hideously long name(and prof told us that it is similar in composition to bleach) but it was something like ammonia per-somethingorother.

The traces of cocaine were large enuf that the class thought it would be too much for cross contamintion and from stories from the guy who brought it in, it wasnt a one time thing that the weed was like this(he smoked some the day earlier, got an odd high and brought it in). At the time, I didnt smoke weed, or do E, so I wasnt really paying attention. Wasnt like this lab was going to be on the exam.

but it would have been hella funny if it was!

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Good to see such cool profs still exist

Too bad they couldn't do this more often, imagine how much safer it would be for anyone buying drugs if they could bring it to the university for a test!

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