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Originally posted by hooknife So can any other concert in the world, just depends on whats going on there. Are you making a blanket statement and saying because electronic music is being played it is inherently a BAD thing attend? What do you mean by fucked up place?

lol who mentioned music?
What do i mean by fucked up place? Im mainly talking about the drugs.. I dont know what the parties are like where you live, but where Im from the mass consumption of hard drugs by people way too young to know what they're doing can't compare to any other kind of party ive been to.

And I never said raves were the only thing that are 'bad' also.. concerts and school are also fucked up. But at concerts its mostly weed...

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Originally posted by jdjd lol who mentioned music? What do i mean by fucked up place? Im mainly talking about the drugs.. I dont know what the parties are like where you live, but where Im from the mass consumption of hard drugs by people way too young to know what they're doing can't compare to any other kind of party ive been to. And I never said raves were the only thing that are 'bad' also.. concerts and school are also fucked up. But at concerts its mostly weed...

Well, I'm very sorry that you can make an exception for weed! So, let me get this straight, if I only smoke weed at a concert then it's ok? Look, it's like this, music and large groups of young people tend to bring out the drugs weather it's OUTKAST, EMINEM, EVANESCENCE or Tiesto it's just the nature of the beast. I just don't see how people get off on saying one is worse then another. Instead of getting bent out of shape about some "drug party" how about you get bent out of shape about the parents that don't keep and eye on their youngsters. It's not the "raves" fault!

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Originally posted by hooknife Well, I'm very sorry that you can make an exception for weed! So, let me get this straight, if I only smoke weed at a concert then it's ok? Look, it's like this, music and large groups of young people tend to bring out the drugs weather it's OUTKAST, EMINEM, EVANESCENCE or Tiesto it's just the nature of the beast. I just don't see how people get off on saying one is worse then another. Instead of getting bent out of shape about some "drug party" how about you get bent out of shape about the parents that don't keep and eye on their youngsters. It's not the "raves" fault!

you getting bent out of shape dude, sounds like youre taking personal offence to what im saying.

About weed, well its scientific fact that some drugs are more dangerous than others, obvious too...

The question is, would these young people be taking these drugs if those parties didnt exist? I would guess not.. In my personal case, I got into the drugs when young by accident, i didnt look for it, and i dont see how I would have ever started using those drugs if I had never went there.

Im not saying ban raves, just realize that most 'normal' people would see something seriously 'wrong' going on there.. whatever that means lol

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Originally posted by jdat Don't forget that the average person in a club has no clue about the music!

Thanks for clearing that up, I had no idea what that loud noise was.

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Originally posted by jdjd you getting bent out of shape dude, sounds like youre taking personal offence to what im saying. About weed, well its scientific fact that some drugs are more dangerous than others, obvious too... The question is, would these young people be taking these drugs if those parties didnt exist? I would guess not.. In my personal case, I got into the drugs when young by accident, i didnt look for it, and i dont see how I would have ever started using those drugs if I had never went there. Im not saying ban raves, just realize that most 'normal' people would see something seriously 'wrong' going on there.. whatever that means lol

Don't get me wrong, it's not what your saying it's anyone that has the double standered about clubs/concerts/raves/bars. And why I'm on the subject of bars how about this thought. I really fucking can't stand all the people that stand on the side lines and go off about clubs and drugs but then turn around and drink booze like a fish. Say these words with me, DOUBLE FUCKING STANDERED! The only diffrence were talking about here is one is legel and one's not. If weed and coke were legel and booze were not, then we would be having this conversation about booze. A drug is a drug is a drug is a drug.

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I frequented Raves in Atlanta and went as far as New York. And experimenting with different types of drugs...but primarily ecstasy

well maybe this website really is proof that if you do alot of exctasy you become really stupid

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Originally posted by montie well maybe this website really is proof that if you do alot of exctasy you become really stupid

I don't get it, what is so stupid about his post? Is it the spelling of ecstasy?...because afaik, he spelt it correctly.

EDIT: ok wait nm I get it now, I'm half asleep haha. I didn't even bother to read the top few posts...

RAVE - it's a CULT!

hahahahaa

OMFG... ppl, get a grip... how many religious zealouts have you come accross in your lifetime? I've seen quite a few of them. When they start with "may Jesus".... my bran just shuts down....

The worst part is that these people think that God Allmighty wants them to be the messengers, to spread his word among us, the "sheep"... You know, in Ukrainian the word for crazy or insane is "Bozhevilniy" - or literally translated as "At God's will". It's somewhat difficult to translate in a short sentense, but it basically it means "acting by god's will". So, using that theorem, we can deduce that 'religious zealots' are insane/crazy.

What pisses me off the most though, people who automatically superimpose their faith on you and/or assume you are of the same faith, just because you look "like a good-ol boy". I helped this lady start her car in the mall, she starts blabbering "God bless you my son, may Jesus see your good deeds! Have a great Christmass!".... So many things went through my mind at that time, but most of all I was offended. I'm not the kind of person to be rude, so I said "thanks" and moved on. However, it pissed me off badly.

Not to offend any decent people who may be Christian, Catholic, or whatnot, but I have the most unplesant symbolism with the cross. Maybe it is because all the people who called me kike, or beat the shit out of me when I was younger, or even choked me - seemed to have the crosses hanging around their necks. Maybe I'm just biast. but I doubt Jesus wants you to kill in his name.

Whatever... fuck this guy and fuck any asshole who takes religion in the wrong way.

"Don't let your religion get in your way with God"
-Martin Buber

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This guy sounds like a priest... Shouldn't he be busy mollesting children or something??? Gosh, he must be busy...

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I love this one especially:
Ravers (those who attend raves) adopt an alternative culture. Ravers tend to accept anyone, regardless of age, race, or socioeconomic background.

Many Ravers dress distinctively in baggy clothes and fluorescent colors and wear glitter on their face and body. Raver accessories include backpacks designed with cartoon characters, bright beaded jewelry, pacifiers, and glow sticks. Water bottles and candy, especially lollipops, are the Raver's basic equipment.

The philosophy of the Rave movement is PLUR - an acronym for Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect. They believe that the music and atmosphere of the Rave create positive "vibe" - an indescribable feeling of complete happiness that integrates "Peace and Love" into the music and dancing.

The movement is very similar to the social / spiritual revolution that began in the late 60's and 70's. The philosophies of the hippies and flower children of that era have re-emerged in the Rave scene.

Under the guise of Peace and Love, the devil is using music and drugs to deceive masses of young people.

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anyone with 0.000000000000000000000001% of brain left intact should still be able to just move on... can't believe I am even wasting my time reading about this crack-ass bitch. probably took one pill too many himself and kinda got wacked... sort of similar to radio show I heard where the guy was convincing listeners to stop watching pr0n because he fucked up and lost his wife (probably a loose whore, who wouldn't blow him while he was watching his smut) and family due to his porn addiction. whatever, move on - he's just like those idiots who stood outside the woodstock in the 60's handing out bibles to "flower children" and who said that rock 'n' roll was the "devil music"... every generation has its share of retards who think that they know best how you should live your life. don't worry about them, unless they make it to the White House and Capitol... Just look at Ashcroft - a right-wing nut, religious zealout, an ultra-conservative religious fanatic... That's who you have to worry about. I put people like that in the same bin with Osama and Hitler.

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Last edited by CynepMeH on Dec-08-2003 at 05:43

religion is a crutch...plain and simple
if people need something to believe in then they should try believing in themselves

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Originally posted by DanceFever religion is a crutch...plain and simple if people need something to believe in then they should try believing in themselves

i agree, but we still have to respect people for what they believe. Christians have a bias against other religions and slag them and have a bias towards the world. Not just Christians but this applies to other religions too.

this quote is good:

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Ravers (those who attend raves) adopt an alternative culture. Ravers tend to accept anyone, regardless of age, race, or socioeconomic background.

Isnt Germany one of those places of tolerance?

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DanceFever if people need something to believe in then they should try believing in themselves

exactly, refer to sig, I am God