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prolikewhoa
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quote:
Originally posted by Anno Domino
There is a reason why Islam and Judaism dont let the people eat pork.
Under heat (Hello we're in arabia lets pretend its hot!) pork goes bad quickly. In one of the battles, when the Islamic army was going to war with the assyrians I think it was the assyrians Im not sure but it was an epic battle. The Army left from Medina and with them they took lots of pork. Pork went bad, people got sick and they army got its ass handed to them on a platter. Thus they figured out why pork is bad and it should not be eaten.


how long ago are we talking? because if it was really long ago, i'm not sure they would have been able to deduce that the deaths were due to the spoiled pork. people used to think that all kinds of things affected them. they probably would have thought it had something to do with god. people used to think that flies came from inside raw meat.

if it was more recent...then that's understandable. it sounds dumb, but people didn't really know that much about disease back then. it just depends on when this war was.


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Originally posted by prolikewhoa
how long ago are we talking? because if it was really long ago, i'm not sure they would have been able to deduce that the deaths were due to the spoiled pork. people used to think that all kinds of things affected them. they probably would have thought it had something to do with god. people used to think that flies came from inside raw meat.

if it was more recent...then that's understandable. it sounds dumb, but people didn't really know that much about disease back then. it just depends on when this war was.


i dunno, i think the fact that people die after eating spoiled meat might have been a key reason to believe that the meat is the cause of death.

lets take a look at it practically. somone has pork on their plate that looks, feels, smells, and tastes worse than any pork they have ever eaten. They eat the pork and die. Another person experiences the same thing, and dies. then another. then another. etc.

If some-one looks back at what all these people had in common before they became sick, they could see that they all ate nasty pork beforehand. They would know that it wasnt normal pork that killed these people, because people continue to live after eating normal pork, but not after this nasty crap. Then the case is "solved." After you eat spoiled pork, you get sick and die.

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Re: Muslims and pork

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Originally posted by Shakka
and so far as I know they won't even watch a simple Porky Pig cartoon.


muslims cant eat pork...that doesnt mean they cant watch porky pig where the hell did you here that crap...

saddam is a non practicing muslim he apparently doesnt know how to be one becuase no muslim who knows his religon would kill innocent people...

So saddam would obviously eat pig...

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Originally posted by Anno Domino

Under heat (Hello we're in arabia lets pretend its hot!) pork goes bad quickly. In one of the battles, when the Islamic army was going to war with the assyrians I think it was the assyrians Im not sure but it was an epic battle. The Army left from Medina and with them they took lots of pork. Pork went bad, people got sick and they army got its ass handed to them on a platter. Thus they figured out why pork is bad and it should not be eaten.




Actually you are completely wrong thats not the reason why muslims dont eat pork.. you have no idea what you are talking about

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im on shakka's side on this. i got the point, and i got the humor, and it waas good.


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Originally posted by Isannah
muslims cant eat pork...that doesnt mean they cant watch porky pig where the hell did you here that crap...

saddam is a non practicing muslim he apparently doesnt know how to be one becuase no muslim who knows his religon would kill innocent people...

So saddam would obviously eat pig...


The Porky Pig comment wasn't a quote by me, it was in the article--sorry for any confusion.

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The Porky Pig comment wasn't a quote by me, it was in the article--sorry for any confusion.



sorry for quoting u on something you didnt say

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Originally posted by Isannah
Actually you are completely wrong thats not the reason why muslims dont eat pork.. you have no idea what you are talking about


Agreed--I'm quite certain they had come into contact with pigs/boars before this, which would mean they ate or had access to pork before the war. If that was the case, then I'm sure they'd seen and smelled rancid pork before and would have enough common sense not to eat it. It sounds more like a Persian urban legend to me. I did a quick google for "Why don't Muslims eat pork?" LINK and found this, which sounds a lot more reasonable. Here's what I found:


quote:

Q: Why don't Muslims eat pork?
A:In the Qur’an God has told us in Chapter 16, Verse 115.


He has forbidden you only Al-Maytat (meat of a dead animal), blood, the flesh of swine, and any animal which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allah (or has been slaughtered for idols etc, or on which Allah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering). But if one is forced by necessity, without willful disobedience, and not transgressing, - then, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Although we are not given reasons to why we can not eat Pork the verse in the Qur’an is clear to us that Pork is simply forbidden, so to show our sincere obedience to our God we obey what is asked of us. Some may say but Pork is clean today and the Heart Foundation promotes Pork as a lean meal, but in actual fact from medical point of view it is rather unclean:

a) Worms and parasites. As transferred to pig to man are: Trichina Worms, Tapeworms (Taenia Solium), Roundworms, Hookworms, Faciolopsis Buski, Paragonimius, parasites are responsible for many diseases, many of them are contagious, others are fatal.

b) Uric Acid. Is the known cause of heart disease and rheumatism. It has an approximately 20% extraction rate from the kidneys of the pig. Herbivorous animals have an 80% extraction rate. Hence, relative to other animals, a high concentration of Uric Acid is found in Pork.

c) Fatty Acids. Pork Fat is very harmful to the body, being difficult to digest and efficiently convert to energy. Pork Fat is absorbed by the body and consequently accumulates in human tissue as animal fat. Herbivouous animal fat is broken down by the body within the bloodstream resynthesising the fat into a readily available energy source.


There. Case closed. It even says Allah will forgive them if they consume pork unknowingly or in an emergency. Therefore, in Saddam's case, regardless of whether it was "Beef SPAM" or "Regular SPAM", I'm sure Allah was probably not going to hold it against him since it wasn't too easy to get out to the local Wal-Mart to spend all those duckets. Actually, I'm sure Allah didn't really give 2 shits about the SPAM because he was probably still pissed off about all of the murders that Saddam had committed. There. Joke's over. I was forced to learn some useless information because some people couldn't just read it, laugh lightheartedly, and move on. Instead we have a 2 page diatribe on something so silly, that Saddam is probably laughing in his cell because his little SPAM stunt paid off so handsomely on the TA forum!

(For those not in the know, SPAM is an acrnonym of "Spiced HAM", which would intuitively mean that it has pork(ham) in it)

Can we move on now?

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I think they dug a can of Spam out of Saddam's ass when he was going through the physical exam. LOL! He must've had some butt buddies down in that hole!

{{{smoke}}}


wow...how supremely intelligent
go home.


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