SuperFarStucker, wow. Your blind trust in the US is a tad scary, I hope their aren't 100 million more of you here......

Personally, this wouldn't suprise me at all, but, the point is moot because none of us will EVER know the truth. If you trust the US media with anything, you are a complete moron, end of story. Search the internet, find some truly free press, and enlighten your damn self.

The San Fransico Chronicle is one of the LAST remaining news publications that is "liberal." And even it isn't all that great. News feeds people the medicine they require to remain complacent, so that we can continue with our empire building. Two months after Bush's reelection, Syria and Saudi Arabia get a dose of US foot-in-ass. Pray that I'm wrong.

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Originally posted by Aidonis Two months after Bush's reelection, Syria and Saudi Arabia get a dose of US foot-in-ass. Pray that I'm wrong.

Of course you are correct.

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Originally posted by Aidonis SuperFarStucker, wow. Your blind trust in the US is a tad scary, I hope their aren't 100 million more of you here......

How is this "blind trust?"

Ugh, the only thing worse than a moron is a moron trying to prove how smart he is.

Look, I'll spell it out for you - trying to prove how smart you are by proving how skeptical you are about the mass media, while at the same time showing how gullible you are by believing every bullshit conspiracy theory you hear in every whacko Usenet thread, does not make you look smart. IF you want to look smart, then show us how you've done your research and actually know what you're talking about - don't quote totally groundless theories and pull statistics out of your asses as your own lukewarm form of "proof."

Once again, knowing that the media lies or "spins" stories does not make you look smart. Of course they spin. Everybody knows this. Intelligence comes from knowing who to believe, not who not to believe, and this knowledge comes from a good understanding of logic and reason, not from instantly believing that the entire thing was a hoax solely because you hate bush and know how "corrupt" his government is.

That is all.

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Originally posted by Aidonis SuperFarStucker, wow. Your blind trust in the US is a tad scary, I hope their aren't 100 million more of you here...... Personally, this wouldn't suprise me at all, but, the point is moot because none of us will EVER know the truth. If you trust the US media with anything, you are a complete moron, end of story. Search the internet, find some truly free press, and enlighten your damn self. The San Fransico Chronicle is one of the LAST remaining news publications that is "liberal." And even it isn't all that great. News feeds people the medicine they require to remain complacent, so that we can continue with our empire building. Two months after Bush's reelection, Syria and Saudi Arabia get a dose of US foot-in-ass. Pray that I'm wrong.

You're equating the U.S. government with the U.S. media, which is a huge error. Please tell me if I need to explain this to you, otherwise I don't want to waste the time typing.

Furthermore, I don't know where you got the idea that SuperFarStucker has blind trust in America, it's not as if he has the nicest things to say about it. He's being rational. Try it.

Also, the media is always being indicted for being so flamingly liberal. Journalists are just about the only people in this country who grow up to be liberals (everyone is liberal when they're young, for the most part).

What do you think the news needs to do? I think you're looking at CNN, MSNBC and Fox and thinking that's the American media. That's all most people look at, but I won't get started on that because it's a topic I've addressed ad nausem in other threads. The people who watch these shows aren't interested in the news or critical thought anyway, they just want to say they watched the news while cooking dinner. If you took the shows away, I highly doubt these people would go to a newspaper.

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Originally posted by DigiNut How is this "blind trust?" That is all.

DigiNut comes through again

Forgot this earlier...
For the edited tape, here's something that may shock y'all: News segments are EDITED. All of them, always. Particularly with TV news, where you just want the viewer to hear a few catchy things. The whole interview is too boring and mostly irrelevant.

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Originally posted by daffodil there always has to be a conspiracy theory.

uhhhh.... isn't elvis still alive?

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Originally posted by DigiNut How is this "blind trust?" Ugh, the only thing worse than a moron is a moron trying to prove how smart he is. Look, I'll spell it out for you - trying to prove how smart you are by proving how skeptical you are about the mass media, while at the same time showing how gullible you are by believing every bullshit conspiracy theory you hear in every whacko Usenet thread, does not make you look smart. IF you want to look smart, then show us how you've done your research and actually know what you're talking about - don't quote totally groundless theories and pull statistics out of your asses as your own lukewarm form of "proof." Once again, knowing that the media lies or "spins" stories does not make you look smart. Of course they spin. Everybody knows this. Intelligence comes from knowing who to believe, not who not to believe, and this knowledge comes from a good understanding of logic and reason, not from instantly believing that the entire thing was a hoax solely because you hate bush and know how "corrupt" his government is. That is all.

Your text color is very beautiful

This is possibly even stupider than the moon conspiracy theory. First of all, now is NOT a good time for this to happen for Bush to win the election ... why? Becase the election is 11 MONTHS AWAY. If this were some sort of plot, then he would have been found in say 9 or 10 months when it's still fresh in people's minds. What's going to be fresh in people's minds 9 to 10 months from now? A) The current state of the war in Iraq and B) The economy. So if from now, A is still going badly, than it doesn't matter if Saddam is captured. It doesn't matter if freaking Hitler gets captured, the sad fact remains that there is no stability and people are still dying DESPITE these occurrences. So tell me, if Bush is this cunning mastermind as many of you seem to depict, why is he such a retard that he can't keep a proper time table???? Which is it? Criminal genious, or idiot? Criminal genious, or idiot? I know it might be difficult to use logic to figure out that there are only so much time that you can hide in a country where 80% of the people hate you and there are 125,000 troops looking for you, but please, try.

Second of all, from a sheer strategic, tactical standpoint, the whole concept of even "waiting" to show the world you captured him is rediculous since during that time you are waiting, you have organized resistances building up in strength anticipating his return or fighting for his cause. Do you think that people are going to organize as strong resistances knowing that their former baathist government is completely gone for good? Of course not, but NOW they have the organized structure in place to effectively continue resistance. The whole theory is stupid on so many levels that it's mindboggling.

Look there are two kinds of sheep in the world, those that blindly follow authority in the face of logic and those that blindly disbelieve in authority in the face of logic. Use some fucking common sense and be neither.

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Originally posted by daffodil You're equating the U.S. government with the U.S. media, which is a huge error. Please tell me if I need to explain this to you, otherwise I don't want to waste the time typing. Furthermore, I don't know where you got the idea that SuperFarStucker has blind trust in America, it's not as if he has the nicest things to say about it. He's being rational. Try it. Also, the media is always being indicted for being so flamingly liberal. Journalists are just about the only people in this country who grow up to be liberals (everyone is liberal when they're young, for the most part). What do you think the news needs to do? I think you're looking at CNN, MSNBC and Fox and thinking that's the American media. That's all most people look at, but I won't get started on that because it's a topic I've addressed ad nausem in other threads. The people who watch these shows aren't interested in the news or critical thought anyway, they just want to say they watched the news while cooking dinner. If you took the shows away, I highly doubt these people would go to a newspaper.

Furthermore, to expand on Daffodil's statement, there is NO SUCH THING as isolated media. Even in China nowadays. So where there are CNN reporters, there are bbc, reuters, guardian, independant, etc., reporters. So IF there were a huge massive cover up by american media ... than YOU WOULD HEAR ABOUT IT ON BBC. That's it, I'm giving everybody a jar of cents for christmas. Everbody needs a whole fucking jar of common sense.

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Look there are two kinds of sheep in the world, those that blindly follow authority in the face of logic and those that blindly disbelieve in authority in the face of logic. Use some fucking common sense and be neither.

Be the super 1337 sheep instead?

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You're equating the U.S. government with the U.S. media, which is a huge error. Please tell me if I need to explain this to you, otherwise I don't want to waste the time typing.

I'm fine thanks. While different, I don't think it's a huge error. Both mislead the public.

And yes, I was a bit irrational with Super...the price I pay for posting drunk. My only point is you shouldn't believe everything you read. Whether it's the Chicago Tribune or a Usenet post. Flame away I guess, seems to be a trademark here.