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Originally posted by Palestinian by the way, trancegiant, i'm glad you took that photo of yourself off...was starting to make me itch.

lol, aye, jealousy can hurt

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Originally posted by Palestinian Stop making accusations and start debating with me intelligently you sad, shit, fuck.

not nice

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If you care about your precious Israel, you would stop being occupiers and get the fuck off someone else' land.

hehe thats maybe your opinion dude,
but many believe that if Israel just "fucks off" from the territories, it will do very bad to israel in the long-run.
also i must add, that this land does not belong to "someone else" right now like you say, it belongs to no one (but is under israeli control since 67 war), Jordan made peace with israel without taking the west bank, and the palestinians never had a country of their own standing there. they could have had it in 1947 after UN decleration -two states side-by-side, but instead opened a war.

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The only thing doing the recruiting is your American made tanks and helicopter gunships above our homes and streets.

we had those tanks and helicopter gunships in 1929? 1930-1936? when those who are called palestinians today brutaly muredered and terrorized jewish imigrants? we had those US made tanks and helicopter gunships above your streets in 1947?? right after the UN decleration when your friends opened a war with 7 arab armies against one little just-born israel?? ofcourse not!

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Death and destruction of a free Israel?? Who are you trying to fool? Your racist state is the fourth most powerful in the worldand has nuclear weapons

hehe

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who's going to destroy it? A bunch of thugs with bombs on their waists? Shut the fuck up and wake up to reality, shithead.

maybe they can't destroy it, but those "thugs with bombs on their weists" sure wish for death (they are succesful in it if i may add) - thats what he said.

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The rest of your message shows your deeply racist mentallity. Racism at its finest. You need to relax, calm down, and chill.

and you tried to show that you dont base your ideas on "straight lies", but i beive i have just proved the opposite.

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i've already discussed your arguements and refuted it them flotser. Read some of the previous threads.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant lol, aye, jealousy can hurt

you'de like that wouldn't you

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Originally posted by Flotser They are idiots. They use an anti-democratic way to go against the law and against goverment decisions. They have used the media for political and idiological reasons - thats also why they chose going to jail (yes it was their choise). its not THAT hard to get away from serving the army, they could have said to the Army Psychologist that they are afraid of the service or watever tell about childhood problems and would have been released - no prison. not only they ran away from serving their democratic country, but they also harm it and suppurt its enemeis.

This is the funniest thing ive read all week. Basic cntradiction.

How are they using "anti-democratic" means to go against the governement, when they are using the very DEMOCRATIC doctrine of free speech to show their condemnation in serving in the IDF?

They probably knew that they could have stated something "psychological" but they were brave enough to tell the TRUTH about their feelings.

By taking advantage of Isreal's so called "free speech" they were put in jail.

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Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef You spew out shit... "ethnic cleansing and genocide." That’s what you and your camp of pro-terror buffoons are good at doing, propagating your dirty, and blood soakin' agendas! You lie to gather sympathy. I read some of the handouts/leaflets I get from people just like you at any event concerning anything against Israel, and most of your supposed "facts" are straight out lies - or outdated material that once made your "cause" somewhat sympathetic to look at! Enough of your "we're the victim" garbage... if you care about "Palestine" you'd be marching into Ramallah and protesting Arafat’s regime for stealing money given to them by the international community, using this financial aid to kill innocent men women and children, letting terror networks roam free and recruiting more and more brainwashed children to death and destruction. You do not care for the lives of "Palestinians," you rather the death and destruction of a free Israel! A land that solely belongs to the Jew's! You talk about making a home for "Palestinians", you have 20+ Muslim nations who will not try and exterminate you. The Jew's don’t have the comfort of an international family... Israel is their home... there can not be no substitute! When you learn to love humanity more then hate "your sworn enemy," you'll see that your fight was fruitless and full of hate and murder, which brought about poverty and an ill-tempered indoctrinated homicidal society! I think you meant to say "Arafat has fought for decades in a cause that promotes genocide and the eradication of the Jews from the history books." Its funny you claim it to be the other way around, this conflict is deeper routed in the history books than the name of the Palestinian people. The people who support Arafat in his crusade to eliminate a people for their born identity I will continue to bring into this fight... you happen to be one of them.

Ilan, youve basically shown yourself to be the extremity that many people condemn. Israel is NOT solely for the Jews, like they say it is. Also, ive received those leaflets before and they cite their statistics and quotes, ive even looked them up and found them to be authentic.

And to call these Palestinians murderous buffons is easy becuase their "barbaric" imagery is mediated throughout... yet theyre barbaric atttempts do not outweigh the barbaric resuluts of your government...the only difference is that your countries barbarism is masked by a sophisticated army lead by terrorists in suits sitting on oak chairs in the Knesset.

Even though you dont agree with me like we chatted that other night, i still beilieve that Isreal is conducting state terrorism under the pretext of slow but systematic ethnic cleansing.

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I have been reading these types of threads for months without comments. The staunchly pro-Israel and pro-Palestinians should just shoot themselves in the fucking head... You people sound dumber than Pat Robertson going off on everything not fundamentalist christian... shut the fuck up already... dumbasses...

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Originally posted by NYGblue I have been reading these types of threads for months without comments. The staunchly pro-Israel and pro-Palestinians should just shoot themselves in the fucking head... You people sound dumber than Pat Robertson going off on everything not fundamentalist christian... shut the fuck up already... dumbasses...

You know whats even dumber, when people that have nothing productive to say, come and complain about what people are debating about in a political forum.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You know whats even dumber, when people that have nothing productive to say, come and complain about what people are debating about in a political forum.

cry me a river...

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Originally posted by Cyrus King with me like we chatted that other night, i still beilieve that Isreal is conducting state terrorism under the pretext of slow but systematic ethnic cleansing.

Must be a very badly meditated policy, seems to be doing exactly the opposite, Palestinian populations has been rising and rising, no signs of ethnic cleansing over any substantial period of time can be seen. Very interested to see why you come to infer there is a "state" policy of ethnic cleansing when all population stats seem to prove something else. I could make the argument that the Israeli government is systematically encouraging the growth of Palestinian population with much stronger basis than you could make an argument it is trying to reduce it based on previous facts and trends.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Must be a very badly meditated policy, seems to be doing exactly the opposite, Palestinian populations has been rising and rising, no signs of ethnic cleansing over any substantial period of time can be seen. Very interested to see why you come to infer there is a "state" policy of ethnic cleansing when all population stats seem to prove something else. I could make the argument that the Israeli government is systematically encouraging the growth of Palestinian population with much stronger basis than you could make an argument it is trying to reduce it based on previous facts and trends.

You should actually thank Palestinian resistance for that.

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