i really would love to get the ball rolling on this one.

i was never proposing that we were trance only, but i think thats the key.. play listenable stuff for everyone and also, have house shows, trance shows, hardtrance shows.. cater for all.

there is an audience out there.. i know there is!!1

its just a matter of knowing what the hell to do, thats all

and i, unfortunately have no idea where to start

Soups,

Well - I guess the main thing we need here is the licence to broadcast... Without this the whole idea will crumble (obviously) - unless it is changed to a Net based streaming service but I think that a standard radio station is what we should be looking at here first...

It also looks like we are from 2 diff cities here (I'm in Sydney)... So whether that means that this is the same station started in 2 diff cities or whether we just go our own separate ways I don't know...

So I guess the place to start would be the ABA (www.aba.gov.au) - just tried their site and it's down!

But on there it should explain the limitations of a community licence, how to apply, and also if there is anything available for us to use in our respective cities... It was said earlier that the Sydney FM spectrum is nearly at capacity so maybe there is no option for us up here?

This would be the first step to finding out if this could work... Don't worry about anything other than this for now... If all is OK after checking with ABA then we can move onto further planning...

Well, I have checked out the ABA site (now online again) and in terms of Sydney there is NOTHING available

The spectrum or what has been made available by the ABA is pretty much all taken up (as a previous poster said)... Until they release another licence allocation to the public there is nothing that can be done... And to show the desperation in getting licences an AM Sydney-wide licence was the last one that was offered about a year ago (which was eventually scrapped anyway)... Trance on AM radio? I don't think so! OutFM actually applied for this AM frequency but failed


As for Melbourne it seems like the situation wasn't as bad as Sydney, but as for if there was a licence available I think there was but I wasn't sure... Information was a bit abstract and in the end there was some large PDF report you had to download to read on + well I just couldn't be bothered...

Soups, this one's for you
http://www.aba.gov.au/radio/service...e/index.htm#cty


I guess the only option for conventional radio (in terms of Sydney) is to try and get a spot on FBI or similar radio station + just be happy with that?

Then there's the Net streaming method, but what about the $$$ required for that? It would be way higher than a normal radio station with all the bandwidth requirements, etc... That'd require some backing from a company or at least a hosting company that would "lend" us their bandwidth... But obviously the advantages of this is that it is potentially worldwide or at least Australia-wide and could become quite big?

But I don't know... For now I'm giving up on the idea... The dream lasted for day or 2


I guess we all missed the boat? The battle for the Sydney radio licences a couple of years ago was pretty much the only chance we ever had... Now all we can hope for is that a current licence holder goes broke or shuts down

there is more than 2000 listeners of trance.

Think of Subbies, gas and icebox each week PLUS there is almost a rave on every weekend, so there is a lot more than 2000 (event tho its mostly the hard scene).

The uplifting scene might suck on a local scale with halcyon struggling, but look at the numbers tiesto, armin, pvd etc.. pull! There is an interest there, just not for local nights


What we need is a company like ID-T i.e. Future, if they keep putting on big successfull events that bring in the dollars then they could do what ID-T did and branch out into radio.

The chances of that happening are slim tho i would say

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Originally posted by muli What we need is a company like ID-T i.e. Future, if they keep putting on big successfull events that bring in the dollars then they could do what ID-T did and branch out into radio.

Bingo man! ID&T is'nt a promotions company. It's a REAL COMPANY that has a HUGE office, it runs a Radio station, a record label, AND a promotions company.

Compairing AU to Europe for clubbing just isn't fair.

Guys, trust me I'd really like to see this happening as well, fark I'm happy 2 re-new my license/put time to it.... but being realistic it won't happen....The clubbing scene just isn't big enough/cool enough yet, and I doubt it will ever get there due to the attitudes to pubs.

Muli: on a night I took 1000 from Home, 100 from ice box and 900 from gas. That's 2000 people a night, so make that figure 4000, you're right! (Cheers!)

mikey79: I wasn't saying it wasn't viable as a community service/station, I believe it was 100%, just highly doubted it could get the numbers for a commercial license.

If it could be launched you'd have to cheese it up and play A LOT of crap music to get enough listeners to make it work. Quality trance and prog listerners get <1300 punters out once a month.(in Sydney)

--djway

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I think to make this realistic you would have to have the backing of a known brand from overseas with money to break into the australian market. You could always try and convince overseas radio stations to begin broadcasting over here, convincing them the trance/dance scene is about to boom or somthing. i mean ID&T Australia sounds pretty good to me

or better yet find a multibillionaire who's into trance =D

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well look at the geography of australia, its so farkin spread out with a total population of 22 mil.

Europe has huge population and everyone is jammed in so thats why their scene thrives a lot more. People dont have to travel far for events, i mean the whole of the UK could got to GC NEC and be there in a few hours driving time, were as events in melb and syd, its a big trek for out of towners.

I dont think the scene is going to get that much bigger in Aus, we just dont have the population. percentage % wise we are probably not far off other parts of the world.

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all we need to do is convince richard branson that trance lovers are getting ripped off in oz. he'll come riding to our rescue.

how about a radio station that PLays good dance music?
all of it..
Breaks
Prog
Trance
House
Techno
Drum and Bass
etc.

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Ciao baby.

not that i post much nowadays but this is what i think about all this.

We cannot really have, like it has been said, 2000 people listening in at one time, or even all the time, or at one specific time all the time.

Lets take RUSH for example, its on very late, but its trance, the problem for me listening to it is the time that its on, if it was on during daylight hours i would be able to listen in.

Ok u say im not a tru fan, i wish i was but i got uni to pay for, n dun start me on holidays... : P

Anyways are ppl getting my drift, if we have a station pumping out trance for example @ 6PM on Tuesdays, are all those 2000 die hards going to be listening in ?
I hardly doubt it, maybe a large part will be, but lets face it, the world might be a smooth sphere, but life for many of us isn't all clear n true. We have other things that unfortunatelly take our time, and we have to balance them.

Wild would have probably prospered, but lets face it again, people change, I don't like WILD cd's anymore, therefore chances are I will not listen to it anymore, therefore i won't tune in, as you can see times and people change.

As this seems to be true, commercial radio stations that are currently running in Sydney, from my experience are forced to play for a wide audience, if they don't they will not prosper, meaning they will shut down. They entice us with competitions or special guests so we can tune in, but all in all it comes down to us actually buyin he stuff that is ADVERTISED over the radio. If we buy merchandise from the radio, they will make more add's giving the radio station the money to continue running it.

This is the reason that internet radio is so damm huge, its basically cheap to run, all you have to pay for is bandwidth, sure that costs $$$ but not as much as a real radio station.

Business is about making money, making profits, if a radio station is running at a loss, then im sure you can see that they cannot continue to run.

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Cause back before '99, U didn' give a damn about PvD, but now that he's pressin' platinum LP's, all of a sudden ur' into
his killer beat's! Ain't nothin' U can do to make it stop cause trance makes the world go round, so cut the act...

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