Why don't you buy secondhand? Technics are so reliable as evidenced by numerous posts in this thread... you can save a lot of money you know. I bought a pair of MK5's for $690 w/ shipping (shipping was $130!) in ebay.
That may not be a good price for someone who lives in the USA, but a new MK5 (only one) costs here over $600!!

haha... yes. i do own technics like everyone else, but i have tried out the ttx's and i definitely liked them. they weren't so amazing that i wanted to trade my technics immediately but they seemed like very solid decks. hehe... i was merely defending numark against all the haters and explaining that there are good attributes to both decks.

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Originally posted by trancinchink i was merely defending numark against all the haters and explaining that there are good attributes to both decks.

And fair play to you for doing so. Objectivity, now there's something you don't get to see round here everyday.

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I'm convinced that the pitch actually only goes in .1% adjustments. Slight movement within the area of 4.5-4.6 (as an example) does nothing. Only once the display changes.

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Originally posted by DJ1MK I'm convinced that the pitch actually only goes in .1% adjustments. Slight movement within the area of 4.5-4.6 (as an example) does nothing. Only once the display changes.

If that is the case then I would have to say it would cast some serious doubt over the credibility of the Numark.
On the other hand, we also need to know what the Technics does in comparison. But I have a feeling that I read somewhere that it isn't the same.
The other thing that's important to know is the effect that it would have (if any) on the precision of a mix.

Anyone care to elaborate?

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Its a big problem actually testing out the decks as I live in Northern Ireland and not very many DJ Stores about. Technics shouldnt be a problem but the Numarks will probably be hard to find. I still cant decide LMAO

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 The other thing that's important to know is the effect that it would have (if any) on the precision of a mix. Anyone care to elaborate?

I've got CD decks, and they only go in increments of .1%. This gives pretty good precision, but there is no way you are doing a mix longer than 30 seconds without having to tweak the track. Technics 1200 work on an analog scale, which I think has an infinite number of pitches available on the slider.

Can anyone please clear this up? Does the TTX only allow pitch adjust in the way of .1%? Or is it just the pitch display?

I love those decks, and I would lose faith in myself and become terribly depressed if this was the case. I'm really unstable like that.

www.decks.co.uk do a pair of mk2's for £680. Includes Ortofon OM-Pro cartridge and slipmat.

not sure if anywhere does em cheaper, ill be getting this package when i have enough money www.jbsmusic.co.uk/validate07.php?action=show&orig_rowid=289 (hopefully by end of feb )

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 ...The Numark is cheaper than the Tech by a little bit. It also offers more functions and gadgets. Ask yourself, when does a corporation like Numark ever feel like giving us anything for free? The answer is never. They must be making their money some how and it's usually by cutting costs on parts. With lower cost usually comes lower quality. With a higher complexity matched with lower quality the end result is a greater potential for problems. No where do you get more for less without there being a catch.

Come on guy, what kind of argument is that? Both of them are overpriced audio equipment, why do they cost so much, because thats what they can sell them at to US! It's all supply and demand, a precision electric motor, and audio components do not cost as much to make as they are charging us! Technics is not selling their tables at a loss. It's the same thing if I put two identical apples in front of a person with different price tags, a person might think the more expensive one is better, but is it?

And mechanical versus electronic components? Why are people even trying to debate this, a good engineered mechanical design (Technics) will last for many years, especially if the parts don't wear. A good engineered electronic design will last as long, if not longer. Sure your uncle had a technics from '76 that's still going, yeah I have an Apple IIci personal computer that works just as well as it did when new. Well engineered equipment does what it's designed to do, and it will do it for as long as it was designed to! (there is such a thing as overengineering)

It's all about the engineering of a product, the technics obviously has industry backing and the calendar years to back it up and prove it, we all know the technics is ROCK SOLID. Everyone also can clearly see the TTX is a great product, all it needs to do is prove itself over the years. Either way, it doesn't really even matter which turntable the DJ is using, because it all comes down to what he does with the music, it's the music that matters

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Originally posted by khemfusion Come on guy, what kind of argument is that? Both of them are overpriced audio equipment, why do they cost so much, because thats what they can sell them at to US! It's all supply and demand, a precision electric motor, and audio components do not cost as much to make as they are charging us! Technics is not selling their tables at a loss. It's the same thing if I put two identical apples in front of a person with different price tags, a person might think the more expensive one is better, but is it?

Hence the reason I also wrote this...

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Ironically in this case I actually think that the move that would benefit Numark the most would be to bring out a deck that actually costs a bit more than the Tech. Another thing you will find in business is that if you charge less than a competitor for something that is the same or equal to their product, market research has shown that the consumer would also think less of it in a lot of cases. Where as if you charged more (Within reason) it would gain prestige.

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theb - i live in Northern Ireland too. If you live in or near Belfast, "The Electronic Store" has turntables setup around their shop that you can try out. They have TTX1s and 1200s you can tryout. I used to have 1200s and yes they are great decks but.... the TTX1s are just a shear pleasure to mix on. Like many have said only the test of time will tell whether we can call these betta than The Techs.