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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker It amazes me how slow you are. Did I ever say the Xbox was good? No, I just implied the gamecube is a computer too. You can't prove me wrong, it uses all the same kinds of architecture, FUCK, if somebody ported an os to the gamecube and made a hard drive add on for it, you could use it just *LIKE* a computer.

Technically it is a computer, seeing as how it follows general computer architecture and uses a microprocessor, but I think when he said "computer" he meant "PC". Technically a toaster oven is a computer too but you're not going to be playing any games on that.

And in case you're in a really skeptical mood, I'll elucidate the differences here between a PC and embedded computer or Embedded System:

PC: User-based operating system on external storage;
ES: Static, noninteractive operating system hardcoded into ROM or burned in Flash.

PC: Scalable architecture with interchangable components;
ES: Static architecture with a single set of internal components (although various I/O devices can be supported).

PC: Supports multitasking, task switching, etc.
ES: Designed to run one program at a time.

And so on... essentially the difference is that a PC's operation can be modified, whereas an embedded system cannot. The x-box is in fact a scaled-down PC... its internal architecture is exactly that of an Intel-based PC and I believe it runs Windows 2000 by default, while also being able to support other operating systems, does it not?

Anyway, this argument is none of my business, but I thought I'd smooth out that one little wrinkle.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Technically it is a computer, seeing as how it follows general computer architecture and uses a microprocessor, but I think when he said "computer" he meant "PC". Technically a toaster oven is a computer too but you're not going to be playing any games on that. And in case you're in a really skeptical mood, I'll elucidate the differences here between a PC and embedded computer or Embedded System: PC: User-based operating system on external storage; ES: Static, noninteractive operating system hardcoded into ROM or burned in Flash. PC: Scalable architecture with interchangable components; ES: Static architecture with a single set of internal components (although various I/O devices can be supported). PC: Supports multitasking, task switching, etc. ES: Designed to run one program at a time. And so on... essentially the difference is that a PC's operation can be modified, whereas an embedded system cannot. The x-box is in fact a scaled-down PC... its internal architecture is exactly that of an Intel-based PC and I believe it runs Windows 2000 by default, while also being able to support other operating systems, does it not? Anyway, this argument is none of my business, but I thought I'd smooth out that one little wrinkle.

Uh... own3d?

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Originally posted by DJYaNiK Uh... own3d?

I wasn't trying to own anyone... I was just discrediting defending the x-box as more than a glorified mishmash of PC components on the basis that other consoles are also just computers.

I don't happen to like the xbox or think it's very well designed, but arguing over the hardware is pointless seeing as how the games are what really matter in a system. I've got a ps2 but I never play it (no time) - sometimes I think I'd have enjoyed a GC better though, because of games like megaman/zelda/metroid.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Technically it is a computer, seeing as how it follows general computer architecture and uses a microprocessor, but I think when he said "computer" he meant "PC". Technically a toaster oven is a computer too but you're not going to be playing any games on that. And in case you're in a really skeptical mood, I'll elucidate the differences here between a PC and embedded computer or Embedded System: PC: User-based operating system on external storage; ES: Static, noninteractive operating system hardcoded into ROM or burned in Flash. PC: Scalable architecture with interchangable components; ES: Static architecture with a single set of internal components (although various I/O devices can be supported). PC: Supports multitasking, task switching, etc. ES: Designed to run one program at a time. And so on... essentially the difference is that a PC's operation can be modified, whereas an embedded system cannot. The x-box is in fact a scaled-down PC... its internal architecture is exactly that of an Intel-based PC and I believe it runs Windows 2000 by default, while also being able to support other operating systems, does it not? Anyway, this argument is none of my business, but I thought I'd smooth out that one little wrinkle.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sea...l+computer&r=67

I'd say they are all hybrids between embedded systems and personal computers if you want to get technical. They are ALL built around PC derived technologies. A PC doesn't natively support multi-tasking operations, it's the OS abstraction level that does. The xbox is probably more PC like than the other systems, you're right, it's architecture is very similar to an intel based pc, with an important differences.

*Its VPU is a modified nVidia gf3 generation card specifically suited to its architecture (oddly enough the gamecube is running ati, although its more custom built it's presumed to be derived from 8500 generation technology.)
*It's NOT EXPANDABLE/UPGRADABLE and the system is locked from non external
*Boot sequence is locked by encryption


It's a polluted word anyways, Pocket PC?

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