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razzi
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: new york

quote:
Originally posted by punchline
To be honest I really don't understand this DJ worship from most people. Though I completely understand producer worship and practice a little bit of that myself (James Holden, Infusion anybody?). But DJs, especially in Trance, just play other people's music. And if they are a producer, sometimes throw one of their own tracks into the mix. They are professional music fans, nothing more. When I become a fan of a DJ it is because I look at his charts, I listen to his sets and become a fan of his music taste, not because Pete Tong says I'm supposed to like him. I know that if he puts a new record in his top 10 list that I will most likely like it. With bigger name Trance DJs though, their charts are mostly the same. Thats wonderful if you like that style, but it would be hard for me to worship them any more than I could worship a radio station.


though i am a dj, i find this post to be very intelligent and i highly respect your opinion.

but i would have to say that djs are a bit more than just 'professional music fans'.. we dont just PLAY music, there is alot more that goes on behind the booth than just spin one record, spin the other, and so on and so forth. i would go into more detail about effects, building a set, reading crowds, beatmatching etc etc.. but its dinner time.

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m0sh
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Its funny that just because ATB made it to the top list , people here are saying that the voters are stupid,this shows pretty much of how childish people are.
For those who thinks like that I have few things to say : opinion and respect - you need to learn that peoples have a different opinions and you need to respect that,nevertheless this top dj doesnt say who is really better but it says who is the most favourite and yeah he should be the most popular, BUT you can't say that X is better than Y cuz its a metter of opinion but what u can do is respect the majority who picked X insted of Y.


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CortexBomb
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Registered: Jun 2002
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DJ list? Don't you mean 'Techno' DJ list?



Seriously though, there are a lot of informed Americans out there, but the misconceptions and bias against the electronic music scene is insane in the masses.

The problem illustrated above is so common, in my Deutsch class the prof asked people what they thought German's listened to besides pop rock, and someone immediately said ,Techno' which led into a spiel by me about how people in Detroit listen to Techno, and how people in Germany listen to Progressive, Trance, and House.



I don't think people would necessarily pan people for being fans of say, atb, if the voters were actually familiar with the other electronica that's out there.

I totally respect people's musical tastes, regardless of how odd I think they are, because I enjoy genres ranging from Emo and 80's punk to Goa myself.

That said, if all you listen to is mainstream music, then you're shortchanging yourself, especially in this era of knowledge. 10 years ago, sure, there was an excuse to not be knowledgeable about the underground facets of a given scene, but now it's just a few queries away. To not branch out to me is pure laziness now, with no excuses.

And by branching out I don't necessarily mean *liking* the different music, but at least learning about it and giving it an honest go.

If you want to vote atb to your top 5 list after spending some time with Seaman, Warren, and Sander K be my guest, just don't shortchange those guys by *not* giving them a chance.


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PlasticSoul
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Brasília - DF

What is the official site for that list"?

werd0 ranking...



And the right is: "top 100 djs in USA...USA USA .." not all America...


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CortexBomb
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I agree that calling Americans is unfair to the rest of the continent, but what the hell do you call people who live in the States otherwise?

Honest question, I dislike the convention too, but I haven't found anything else that works in it's place...


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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

at least tijs didn't win this one

and Ferry Above armin


guess the yanks aren't that clueless after all

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hmm

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
What is the official site for that list"?

werd0 ranking...



And the right is: "top 100 djs in USA...USA USA .." not all America...


http://www.livesets.com

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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
What is the official site for that list"?

werd0 ranking...



And the right is: "top 100 djs in USA...USA USA .." not all America...


yeah yeah whatever...

god those United States People are stupid

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Although I agree with Paul being #1.


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punchline
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Virginia, United States

quote:
Originally posted by razzi
though i am a dj, i find this post to be very intelligent and i highly respect your opinion.

but i would have to say that djs are a bit more than just 'professional music fans'.. we dont just PLAY music, there is alot more that goes on behind the booth than just spin one record, spin the other, and so on and so forth. i would go into more detail about effects, building a set, reading crowds, beatmatching etc etc.. but its dinner time.

adios


I agree that there are more details than what I described. I was just trying not to make my post too long. I have been a DJ since mid ’98 and have played regularly at clubs. I agree that there are many difficult things needed to make a set good. But when you get down to the nuts and bolts of it all, I am a professional music listener. I spend hours in record shops, in online record stores, listening to songs and finding the good tracks in the stacks of records. Because I do this, somebody paying attention to my charts can find the good tracks without spending hours searching for them.

When in the booth, I select tracks based on how I interpret the crowd energy. A DJ with poor track selection can clear a floor faster than anything I have ever seen. But I don’t expect to be worshiped for putting a song on the floor at the perfect time. At least the way I feel, that credit belongs to the remixer. I just discovered the song and played it for them.

My goal when playing out is for people to notice my name on a flyer and know right away that they are going to have a good time and hear good new songs that they haven’t heard before, based completely on my taste in music. I hope that they have a good time dancing and don’t stand around staring at the turntables the entire night, because that shouldn’t be the reason you go to a club. Trainspotters are neat when you first start playing live, but they get old quick. Especially when playing at a less than secure venue and have to keep an eye on your records the entire night.

As a fellow DJ I would love to hear your thoughts on this. I know that when I talk to DJs when traveling in other regions or who play different styles, these views differ. I am betting DJs in other countries will see things differently as well.

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Danny Ocean
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Registered: Dec 2003
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Re: Re: tOP 100 Favourite djs in America

quote:
Originally posted by smallSHEEP
Who the fuck is DJ Dan?


dj dan is a very good house dj.

EDIT: of course not good enough to be in third there...

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher

There are PLENTY of stupid fucking Europeans, as well.


Amen.

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