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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Flotser
you gotta start somwhere


Next stop should be jeruselem to evict that war criminal Sharon


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rizo
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: sf south bay

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Next stop should be jeruselem to evict that wat criminal Sharon
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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Saddam?

IF thats the case... then you should also advocate removing other dictatorhips through invasion.


I'd go to the UN first and ask for help.
If that didn't work, I'd give him 48hrs. to disarm and get a few of my best buds to help me out.

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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:
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IF thats the case... then you should also advocate removing other dictatorhips through invasion.


But I do


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Next stop should be jeruselem to evict that war criminal Sharon

Who?

Seriously, last time I checked this was a thread about Iraq. I don't think the 3rd-grade "if you give one to him, you have to give one to the whole class" one-liner is actually a valid point of discussion here.


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Rostros
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: United Kingdom

I saw this on the news a few days ago, yeah i guess pissing of Japan and Korea is not a wise thing to do, maybe the iraq's are trying to create a war between America and Japan, it could happen like it happend at Pearl Harbour,

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NYCTrancefan
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Originally posted by Rostros
I saw this on the news a few days ago, yeah i guess pissing of Japan and Korea is not a wise thing to do, maybe the iraq's are trying to create a war between America and Japan, it could happen like it happend at Pearl Harbour,


The kidnappers are just plain savage cowards, nothing more. The reason I say this is that if they are such freedom fighters why don't they stick to fighting U.S. and coalition troops instead of kidnapping civilians who are so scary with providing food aid to Iraqis who need it or are journalists. Anyone who is not disgusted by these actions would be just as pathetic as those who could offer any defence for the deaths of innocent Iraqis as well.

Maybe some people just have different moral standards in societies around the world, too bad we don't remember that we are all human beings. I wished the U.S had never touched Iraq in the first place because they had the ultimate stability before, a coldblooded dictator in Saddam Hussein and his sons, which is what they deserved. The U.S. will learn a valuable lesson let people live the way they want to in their societies, never again should the U.S. fight on such shameful grounds, never again


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Spankster
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Kibutz

quote:
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what brave warriors these individuals behind the kidnappings must be, more like morons. How hard is it to kidnap journalists, one of whom was a peace activist, along with an aid worker and put knives and swords to their throats while shouting allah-akbar. These people are the least common denominator of Iraqi society. Whether the U.S. is there now or not aid workers would be there trying to help the Iraqis who need it. I hope they have the guts to let these people go seeing that Japanese troops aren't even there in Iraq to fight them in the first place but to reconstruct parts of the nation. Shame on these cowards, go fight the U.S. troops directly they have guns.


The US has guns as well...........maybe they should fight like REAL BRAVE WARRIORS and give up their use of tomahawk missiles, ah-64 apache gunships, f-16 fighter/bombers(and any other aircraft), and m1 abrahms MBT's and see how they fair in street to street small arms combat against the militia's in fallujah and what not.
While i dont disagree with ur view that taking civilians as hostages is cowardice i couldnt help but laugh at ur final statement given amerikkka's indiscriminant use of heavy weapons which just so happens to take the lives of innocent civilians as well as enemy combatants.


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Location: San Diego, Ca.

quote:
Originally posted by Spankster
The US has guns as well...........maybe they should fight like REAL BRAVE WARRIORS and give up their use of tomahawk missiles, ah-64 apache gunships, f-16 fighter/bombers(and any other aircraft), and m1 abrahms MBT's and see how they fair in street to street small arms combat against the militia's in fallujah and what not.
While i dont disagree with ur view that taking civilians as hostages is cowardice i couldnt help but laugh at ur final statement given amerikkka's indiscriminant use of heavy weapons which just so happens to take the lives of innocent civilians as well as enemy combatants.


are you kidding me? Wow- you're a fucking idiot.

When you kidnap civilians that is considered fair tactics?

All they did was bring a knive to a gunfight.

There are US teams on the ground right now doing sweeps.

They will be found soon enough. I doubt Japan is going to go to war with us because of their civilians getting killed. All they're going to do is piss Japan off and then they will take sanctions against Iraq as well.


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quote:
Originally posted by Spankster
The US has guns as well...........maybe they should fight like REAL BRAVE WARRIORS and give up their use of tomahawk missiles, ah-64 apache gunships, f-16 fighter/bombers(and any other aircraft), and m1 abrahms MBT's and see how they fair in street to street small arms combat against the militia's in fallujah and what not.
While i dont disagree with ur view that taking civilians as hostages is cowardice i couldnt help but laugh at ur final statement given amerikkka's indiscriminant use of heavy weapons which just so happens to take the lives of innocent civilians as well as enemy combatants.


You seem to be under the impression that I am defending America on the issue of Iraq, I will enlighten you, you are dead wrong. I was against the lies that led up to this war, the conflict was purposeless and nothing gave America the right to "try and impose democracy by force on a people." My reasoning is that the "freedom fighters" should go fight coalition troops who have the ability to at least defend themselves as opposed to civilians who for the most part are helping out Iraqis who need it. If you want to argue that Iraqi civilians are being killed by American firepower as well, two wrongs doesn't make a right.


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Spankster
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Kibutz

quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
are you kidding me? Wow- you're a fucking idiot.

When you kidnap civilians that is considered fair tactics?

All they did was bring a knive to a gunfight.

There are US teams on the ground right now doing sweeps.

They will be found soon enough. I doubt Japan is going to go to war with us because of their civilians getting killed. All they're going to do is piss Japan off and then they will take sanctions against Iraq as well.


If you read my post properly you would've read the bit...."While i dont disagree with ur view that taking civilians as hostages is cowardice .......".
I dont consider kidnapping civilians as fair tactics.........comprende?


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Spankster
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Kibutz

quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
You seem to be under the impression that I am defending America on the issue of Iraq, I will enlighten you, you are dead wrong. I was against the lies that led up to this war, the conflict was purposeless and nothing gave America the right to "try and impose democracy by force on a people." My reasoning is that the "freedom fighters" should go fight coalition troops who have the ability to at least defend themselves as opposed to civilians who for the most part are helping out Iraqis who need it. If you want to argue that Iraqi civilians are being killed by American firepower as well, two wrongs doesn't make a right.


You questioned the so-called "freedom frighters" tactics and bravery, and i question the US forces........how hard and brave it is to drop a payload of bombs from 10,000 feet in the air while indiscriminating wounding and killing civilians at the same time as targeting combatants. I think amerikkkan tactics are just as cowardly as the so-called freedom fighters.


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