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Originally posted by rafale probably coz SACD's might be able to reproduce sound quality similar to that of vinyl ? not sure tho n too lazy to read up but that could be a reason =)

i said SIMILAR.. technically will never be able to reproduce analogue sound because it is a DIGITAL media. However, after deciding to read up a little, I realised, like Nou said earlier, that it can reproduce 99.9% of the original analogue waveform.

HOWEVER, i don't think it will be mass produced anytime soon, as record labels, djs etc are just too familiar with normal cds at the moment. implementing a new technology like sacds in an industry may take a fair bit of time, but when the time comes, i don't think the sound quality will be something to worry about. Many can't even tell whether the dj is spinning normal cds or vinyls in a club nowadays, so sound quality-wise it shouldnt be a problem.

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Originally posted by Freak Also-back to your earlier point- you can have a very high sample rate, but its still 0's and 1's and not a constant waveform. Quote the numbers as much as you like- it will never be technically as good as vinyl- as vinyl has no limitations on sample rate, and as such there are far more transients and subtletys

Excellent point but consider this. When does "analog warmth" become irrelevant? "Super Audio CD uses Sony's Direct Stream Digital™ process, which records a 1-bit signal at an astonishing 2,822,400 samples per second. This is 64 times the sampling frequency of standard Compact Disc. The result is more than just superb frequency response and dynamic range. DSD's simplified mechanism for recording and playback results in a frequency response of over 100kHz and a dynamic range over 120dB across the audible frequency range." It is said the human ear is normally capable of hearing a frequency range of 20Hz-20kHz. You will be hard pressed to find a person who can consistently tell the difference between normal CD and vinyl.

Another point I like to make is the limitation of vinyl. Dust, as we all know, is a huge source distortion for vinyl Everytime the needle runs over the vinyl grooves, microscopic dust is fused into the vinyl from the heat generated by the needle friction. Therefore the more you play your record, the further away from the original recording your record gets.

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Originally posted by jdat SACD or not, running a surround rig in a large venue with high sound levels, you will never get decent results; unless you got an astronomical budget which clearly no one would. First of all, you have hall acoustics to worry about which I believe is the deciding factor in showing that surround setups cannot be done and on top of that you have all the rest.

SACDs might not thrive in venues that can not fully appreciate it's technology but clubs that can will have a clear edge over clubs that don't. Besides, DJing isn't limited to clubs. I, for one, enjoy mixing at the comfort of my house for friends. Having surround sound tracks will definitely be a bonus to listeners that can support the technology. BT has said in a recent interview his next CD will be in surround sound. It takes 10 years for new technlogy to be embraced by the consumer market, perhaps then we will see clubs that can support surround sound acoustics.

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Originally posted by jdat The reason why it didn't work back in the 80s is because the videotapes didn't exist for long time lengths ( max was around 60 minutes I believe )

Slightly off-topic, but everything I've heard says that the main reason Beta lost out to VHS was marketing. At the time, Panasonic (inventor of VHS) had supeior marketing abilities to Sony (inventor of Beta).

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